Posted by Mr.CombatisMattSaxe at 1cust151.tnt26.chi5.da.uu.net on January 19, 2000 at 02:14:50:
In Reply to: funny anti dogma stuff posted by bofinger on January 18, 2000 at 22:53:03:
Mr. Combat: I read this ridiculous letter, and I have to ask you bofinger, who are these holier than thou morons you call friends? They make me want to vomit. The letter made me laugh because your friends come off as so stupid and preachy, its just mind-boggling.
: i had this sent to me form an old christian friend that dosent know im a big kevin smith fan....
: > > We are starting an e-mail campaign to raise awareness over a movie that
: > > has been marketed as a comedy. This weekend my husband and I went to
: see a movie called "Dogma".
Mr.Combat-Well, they did something right, they paid to see it. I hope thier money buys something nice for little Harley Quinn Smith. Their campaign is destined to fail, but you have to admire thier blunt stupidity in trying.
: > >
> > The stars in the movie are Matt Damon, Ben Afleck and Chris Rock. We
: > > thought it would be a good movie since we knew the actors, and the
: > > movie trailers we had seen for the movie led us to believe it was a
: > > comedy about three angels.
Mr Combat: Attention you two idiots, its not just a good movie, its a GREAT movie. I guess they thought Rock was an angel. Which as we all know is incorrect, because Rufus is an Apostle, not an angel. I can understand a little why this confused them if they just saw the trailer...wait a minute, in the trailer Rickman-Metatron spreads his wings, and also in the first 45 minutes Rufus tells Bethany and J&SB that he was the 13th Apostle, so no, now I think they're just stupid. Seems these Christians can't follow a movie very well.
We thought it would be a movie like John
: > > Travolta's angel movie.
Mr.Combat: Which they really must have loved since they can't remember its complicated, hard to recall title of "Michael". Jeesh what morons.
We were really wrong on our expectations of
: > > this movie. Matt and I have never walked out on a movie, but after
: > > sitting through 45 minutes, we felt we had to leave
Mr.Combat: Again, people who WALKED OUT EARLY who didn't give the film a chance to show truly how spiritual and beautiful it is because they were too busy pretending to be "good Christians". What fucking morons.
because of the way
: > > the angels were portrayed. In the 45 minutes we watched the movie,
: > > they had an angel pull his pants down to show he was not anatomically
: > > correct and then make several references about it,
Mr.Combat: And this is offensive, how? You'd think they wouldn't mind that because it shows that angels can't have sex. In Tony Kushner's "Angels in America" besides about a hundred other things people find offensive, one thing that really bothers holier-than-thou fucks is the idea that angels have multiple penises and vaginas and copulate ceaselessly. I would think that people would find that more offensive than the idea that angels can't have sex at all. But to each bible-thumping half-wit his or her own.
Matt Damon (one of
: > > the angels) shot 7 people (he shot the people because he found a
: > > loophole on how to get into Heaven after killing people),
Mr.Combat: Partly true in that he could be forgiven for the sin of killing them by walking through the archway, but he didn't just kill them for the fun of it, as is shown earlier, he killed them because he felt that as the former and one and only Angel of Death he was doing what God would want him to do, the job he had denied and that in his denial of it got him booted out on his ass. Also, as revealed in the Boardroom scene by Bartleby, except for Ms. Price, all of the Boardmembers, besides being idolators, are terrible sinners and scum. Did they deserve to be gunned down in the manner they were? No, but it showed how deadly serious Loki takes his former job of Gods personal smiter of the wicked. Its a very powerful, teriffying and darkly funny scene. I can understand someone being offended by it, but these two simpletons got the reasons for finding it offensive all wrong.
Chris Rock
: > > fell from the sky stark naked,
Mr.Combat-True, but they didn't show his piece or anything, just his ass for a few seconds. Is that really so offensive to these two people? One wonders if they take thier own clothes off when they have sex, or if they even DO have sex, if they find the human body so offensive. To paraphrase Randal from Clerks, "They're so repressed."
at least four or five profane words were
: > > spoken in every sentence,
Mr.Combat:Dead Wrong. There were not four or five profane words in EVERY SENTENCE, not even from Jay. Just look at the screenplay and it proves it. Example? Here:
Bethany: And who am I?
Metatron: The girl in the p.j's. Don't ask so many questions--just serve your purpose.
Bethany: I'll pass
Metatron: I beg your pardon?
See you two crucifreaks? 4 sentence, no swear words. There are tons of other sections as well with no swearing too, but I'm spending way too much time dealing with you two wackos. Also, characters that don't swear at all include, the nun, the Priest in Illinois, the girl at the bus counter played by Guinevere Turner, Mrs. Reynolds, the Triplets, Whitland and all the boardmembers of Mooby Corp, the Bartender, Silent Bob, the Old Man and God. Also while in the screenplay they swear once each, in the actual movie, Cardinal Glick and Reporter Grant Hicks don't swear either. There you two, satisfied?
and they did away with crucifix and had
: > > another portrayal for Jesus (he was winking and giving a thumbs up
: > > sign).
Mr. Combat: True, but remember, in the script, the Vatican approved all of Glicks aesthetic changes to Catholicism, including the Buddy Christ.
They also had a derogatory slang term they were using for Jesus.
: > >
Mr.Combat-What? When Rufus calls him, "the man", "J.C.", what? When he says, "nigger owes me 12 bucks?" What was this derragatory slang term they used so consistently in the first 45 minutes, (which is all these two silly bastards saw) that was so offensive?
: > > The movie was so appalling and so against the Christian Faith that Matt
: > > and I apologized in prayer to God for having gone to see the movie.
Mr.Combat:Thanks for informing us of how bad you felt. I hope you feel much better. You make me sick by doing that. You apologized to God for seeing 45 miinutes of a 2 and half hour movie. You must live sad pathetic little lives to think that God is going to send you to Hell for seeing a movie. A movie for petes sake! You know what I find against your Christian faith? Casting your stones of hate on this movie and its creators. Are you both without sin enough that you can do that? It seems I know and understand Christian ideals better than these two and I'm Jewish! But then again, so was Jesus, so why shouldn't I be better informed and more tolerant than these two sorry screwheads.
We
: > > both felt like God was taking names on who was seeing this movie. I
: > > think the Devil produced this movie; I can't even begin to describe
: how appalling and how immoral this movie is.
Mr.Combat: All right, this part made me laugh out loud. I'm sure God is watching every movie theatre showing Dogma and marking down who went to see it who didn't walk out offended like these two are so proud of saying, and sending them to Hell when they die. I'm sure God has more important things to do than punish people for seeing a fucking movie you two cocksmokers. They think the Devil produced this movie? Shit, I didn't even know Mosier had a beef with God whatsoever or that his real name is Lucifer Morningstar, you learn something new everyday don't you? As a lover of the film and a fan and an open-minded human being, PLEASE don't describe anymore of the movie rag-doll, just know your role, and shut your mouth, and get yourself away from a computer.
: > >> > Please pass this e-mail on to other Christians so they know not to go
: > > see this movie and so that they can warn others about the movie. It is
: > > really scary to think that a lot of our youth are going to see this
: > > movie. Chris Rock, Ben Afleck, and Matt Damon are stars that teenagers
: > > go to the movies to see.
: > >> > Please forward this message on to other Christian people, so we can try
: > > to put a stop to this movie and so that we can show Hollywood by low
: > > ticket sales that we are not going to put up with these kinds of
: > > portrayals of Angels and God.
Mr.Combat: Forget it lady, you and your husband can go and pray for my eternal damnation please. I don't want you to do anything on my account. I beg for you tow idiots NOT to pray for me, thanks, I'm happy being who and what I am. And you know what I find really scary? That people like you and your husband are so holier-than-thou that you think you can make people follow your close-minded, bigoted, bible-thumping, moronic ideas.
: > > Thanks!
Mr.Combat-Go fuck yourselves. And THANKS!