Posted by Darth Dobbin2 at 208-58-249-162.s162.tnt1.nwhv.ct.dialup.rcn.com on February 09, 2000 at 01:00:27:
In Reply to: Re: Maybe I'm a dipwad but I thought..... posted by MadKow on February 08, 2000 at 22:24:14:
...That's why so many people look like Jason Lee, Brian O'Halloran, and Ben Affleck. Dude only draws so many different faces.
Relax. It was just a thought that seemed like an aesthetic compromise to link otherwise un-connected tone and "reality" changes. And if you don't think that the creative forces behind cool stuff like to poke fun at themselves, just look to our board's benefactor, who has himself playing a role wherein he is constantly called a "lunchbox" and a "gay fuck."
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: Interesting point, but if Holden did write Mallrats why would he make himself the butt-loving bad guy?
: -Kow
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: : ...that the "Chasing Amy" intro, and the restaraunt scene, established that the events of MALLRATS were really just Holden's comic book interpretations of the twice-told tales of Jay & Silent Bob. That Holden was paying for their "stories," which were, although wrapped around some kernel of truth, that by the very nature of the re-telling via Jay, exaggerated and cartoony. Thus did the two conflicting "worlds" that the two flicks take place in suddenly jibe.
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: : When I saw Chasing Amy in the theater (Yale Square Cinema, the ONLY place in CT that was showing it) during intro, with the comic covers, I assumed that the exploits of J & SB were, in the true "reality" of that flick, only comic book characters. Then when they showed up, & revealed that they sold their exploits to Holden, and Jay was pissed at the "baby talk," that was Kevin's Neil-Gaimen-insta-backward-re-continuity-move to establish that MALLRATS was a comic-bookization of "whatever really happened" that day.
: : That, for me, handily tied up why the whole MALLRATS thing was handled as a comic book (The movie poster, the opening credits, etc.), in a cool re-constructionist way.
: : At the time, I counted that as a really clever way to make a more "serious" film (still laugh-out loud funny, though) in a less cartoony vein, while still being connected to the previous film.
: : Yet from the subtext of a lot of the posts, it seems that people feel the events, attitudes & actions of Jay & Silent Bob in MALLRATS are part of the sacred cannon, "happening" explicitly as the movie portrays. Who's wrong?
: : AND YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE TITLE OF MY POST WILL ILLICIT MANY A CHEAP JAB. LET ME SOUND THEN, A PRE-EMPTIVE "Bite me."
: : Much love to all.