Posted by Walnutman at 24.66.28.176.on.wave.home.com on December 27, 2000 at 21:25:42:
In Reply to: Hey, Lynch. Here's some clarification for ya... posted by CrescentFreshDude on December 27, 2000 at 20:49:12:
: About "Dude, Where's My Car?" - You are missing the point ENTIRELY. DWMC
: was pointless, poorly put together, had a shitty plot, and was a film for
: those who laugh at complete stupidity. In short, it DID NOT BELONG IN A
: THEATER. Such is it's brilliance. It was a waste of money, because it was
: of poor quality. That's ONE of the reasons I LIKED it...
Um...you might want to rethink that first paragraph. Traditionally, those factors make me stop the movie and rent Magnolia, seeing as how it did so poorly in the theaters it ends up on video in a month and I watch it there four four bucks instead of blowing $8.50 on it.
: As for YOUR examples of "total nonsense humor": You are a fucking fool.
: BASEketball = Not nonsense humor. Airplane = Not nonsense humor. Those fall
: into a different catagory. Spaceghost and Sifl and Olly are, indeed,
: nonsense humor. For example: Any Spaceghost fan who has watched the episode
: entitled "Jacksonville" can tell you that it makes little sense. Of course,
: if you haven't seen it, that statement is of little relevance.
No, BASEketball and Airplane! are both Nonsense Humour. So are The Naked Gun, Kids In The Hall: Brain Candy, Monty Python (any), Young Frankenstein, etc. Your examples are not nonsense humour, they're random humor. At first glance, these two appear to be the same, but with one major difference: Nonsense humor can be watched more than once without boring you to the point of whacking your skull in with a mallet.
: Let me approach this from a different angle: Humor that isn't SET UP, that
: doesn't follow a formula, that is, in fact, the OPPOSITE of general humor
: is what nonsense humor is defined as. I am going to cite an example from
: DWMC - When they goto a tailor and put on two custom Fila suits that they
: had apparently bought the night before, one pulls a dove out of his pocket.
No, this is either a completely random moment, or they learned magic that night. Also, the entire premise of the film is the stff that shitty films are made of. Not to mention the inclusion of the real-life versions of Beavis and Butthead, minus the good music. And at least Beavis and Butthead has a speck of intelligence.
: That is one example of what I am talking about. Or, there is a point in the
: movie when they goto a pizza shop. A man tosses some dough up into the air,
: and, in oppose to CATCHING it, it lands on his face and he simply stands
: there. There are many other moments I can think of, but I have a feeling my
: argument is rather futile.
It is, because THAT example is a rip-off of the, oh, let's say EIGHTY times that this has been shown before in other movies and TV shows. Only uneducated teenage moviegoers would laugh at that point, and even they saw it coming from ten miles away.
: In closing, don't knock a genre of humor that you don't fully grasp. You
: don't grasp it because you're looking for TOO much, when there is acually
: nothing behind the funny moment or the punchline that you just heard or
: saw. Those who seek reasoning do not like nonsense humor.
Explain the reasoning of the Spam sketch from Monty Python. Two people fly in o a store, everything on the menu includes spam, vikings are sitting at the table, and they eventually start to sing. The differences between that and Dude, Where's My Car? are that Monty Python is funny, Monty Python has good writing, and Monty Python doesn't star that guy from That 70s Show.
~~Walnutman~~
If that bomberking guy was here, he'd BLOOEY you.