Posted by Homerbert at host213-122-238-39.btinternet.com on June 24, 2001 at 11:43:15:
In Reply to: I disagree wholeheartedly... posted by Darth Dobbin on June 21, 2001 at 19:32:52:
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First of all, i give them to people as it takes away from pre-conceived notions of what comics are. They're not a genre, they're an artform, just like TV, or movies, or books. People think of censored kappow/wallop as comics with spandex as stuff for kids. If you show them they can be so much more,then you have their attention.
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Huh?
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Theres a hell of a difference between a shallow gun ho war comic and the pollitical satire of Transmet, or the epic tale in Preacher. I get the feeling you haven't really tried preacher or Transmet in trade form, how they should be read. The second Preacher TPB, had a bigger emotional impact on me than anything bar a few movies, and i'm a movie geek (like everyone else here)
: Much like Jazz or Blues, superhero comics are an American artform (now done much better by the British; curses!), and as such, DARK KNIGHT and WATCHMEN both are seminal works.
Super hero comics aren't an artform, they are a GENRE. A genre that smothers all other works, which is stupid.
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Yes, i'll admit some do try to shock, but the same criticisms were levelled at a certain Mr Smith with his swear-a-thon debut movie. So, if i'm to get you straight, almost anything without spandex is pseudo intellectual nonsense. Thats bllshit man. You can;t tie a medium to one genre. What if every movie that came out was a comedy, sure we'd have some great stuff, but no Jaws, star wars, godfather etc. You can't tell just one type of stories, it simply makes no sense, and limits the medium to people who like that kind of story. I know plenty of people who'll read Preacher, Clerks, and Transmet, but who find super powered men in spandex attacking each other un-interesting.
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What's your point. That the other books may be better, but they didn't time it right?
: In any case, I'm glad Kevin is writing GREEN ARROW now, and hope that his runs on books will go into that "classic" status in years to come.
Case in point, my Kevin SMith junkie friend, who owns all the movies (and cartoons, reads the VA comics, but doesn't like GA or DD. It's not a personal slight on Kevin, its just he doesn't like superheroes, which is OK. I like superheroes, but just as some people like gangster movies or scifi and some don't, he doesn't.
At the end of the day comics should be for everybody, and by being almost solely spandex, they are killing any enjoyment most people will ever get out of them.