Posted by Stormin Norman at 202.33.252.99 on July 11, 2001 at 21:32:53:
In Reply to: some people take movies way too serious posted by RPDTrooper on July 11, 2001 at 18:50:13:
: Look at what this site has to say about Dogma. It's a riot.
: http://www.capalert.com/capreports/dogmafull.htm
I like this part.
I have added in my comments.
Wanton Violence/Crime (W):
3 roller blade punks beating an old man with hockey sticks
the same attacking/harassing a woman on the street
*****Ever been to NYC?? Happens all the time.
fighting to control
*****More people fight in the name of God than any other reason.
purchase of firearm to kill
***** Firearms were invented for this reason. Would you rather he bought it off a 10 yrs. old gang member instead?
planning mass murder
****Hiroshima ring a bell?
sexual threat
***Ever been to a night club?
order to kill
***Ever been in the Army? Navy? AF? Marines? Happens daily.
firearm threat to head
****Extremely effective I'd say.
gunfire
***Again... NYC anyone?
demon of human feces
**** Awww.. the poopy monster.... Thanks for thowing that one in there.
hit to face to silence
****Extremely effective. (What do you call a bitch with 2 black eyes? A bitch who had to be told to shut up twice. Snoogans)
threat to neck of woman with a broken bottle
***Well she WAS sent to kill them in the first place. Seems natural to try to protect yourself.
feeling righteous, justified and excited about attempted murder
****Remeber the Indians that were RIGHTEOUSLY slaughtered to create the USA?
willingness to commit suicide to end troubles
***Well you try living in Wis. for 2000 years.
graphic mass death
**** Opposed to Pretty mass death????
exploding head
*** Yes.
decapitated body
***yes
falling body
***yes
toying with dead bodies
***When?
hit of a woman
***She deserved it.
threat to kill a woman with knife to throat
****It was a bottle and your getting repetive.
mayhem
***Since when is this a sin?
automatic gunfire to kill
***Well they asked How to make a holy bar tender
graphic injury
***YEP
Impudence/Hate (I)(1):
***Impudence??? I think they can take Viagra for that.
103 uses of the most foul of the foul words
****You actually counted this? HAHAHA!! Get a life bro!
92 uses of the three/four letter word vocabulary
***HAHAHAHA!
Catholicism promotion of plenary indulgence
***Your point?
lie about purpose and other matters
****HUH?
angels going out for a drink
***News flash Jesus drank wine and hung out with prositiutes.
pro-choice promotion
***Good!
facial piercing
****Where?
thinking murder is justifiable
****It is! Ask OJ
stories of immorality
***Ever been in a bar?
flatulence
****Shit happens. If farting is a sin, I am fucked.
series of "pity me because I'm black"
****Ever heard of NAACP or Affirmitive action?
"I say we get drunk"
****Great Idea!!!
Sex/Homosexuality (S):
adultery
***90% of men cheat in America. The other 10% do it in other countrys
promotion of being gay
****It is their choice. Intolerance. Is that what your church teaches you?
homosexual suggestions
****See above.
many sexual and vulgar comments
*****Try watching the ROPPONGI HAPPY HOUR!!!! YEAH!!!
sexual suggestions
****Watch the Roppongi Happy Hour!!!
requests for sexual performance
****Watch the Roppongi Happy Hour!!!
sexual conversations, talk, innuendo
****Watch the Roppongi Happy Hour!!!
adults in underwear
****but you would bitch if they were naked.
vulgar exposure to show absence of genitalia; male and female
****How can you call this vulgar? Metatron had no dick! It is like a Ken doll.
exhibitionism
****Watch the Roppongi Happy Hour!!!
many requests for sex as payment for "good deed"
****Watch the Roppongi Happy Hour!!!
sexual offer
****Watch the Roppongi Happy Hour!!!
gaping mouth and licking kissing
*****Sounds great to me....
repeated full rear male nudity, some from an inferior angle (upward from the feet)
****Inferior angle? Talk about being a homo.
staring at nudity
****If this is a sin I am fucked
strip dancer
****Watch the Roppongi Happy Hour!!!
trying to buy sex
****Yep all the time...
repeated partial nudity
****Sells the movie
repeated views of a vulgar statue
****Vulgar Statue? So your church is into censorship?
self touchings
*****It is free and it is at arm's length. If god did not want you to touch yourself he would put it in a more difficult to reach place.
man getting off commode
*****Notice that he didn't wipe his ass?
suggestive eye movement
****This is a sin too?????? Shit!
Drugs/Alcohol (D):
drinking
smoking
drunken revelry
smoking dope repeatedly
strip bar
"We need a LOT of drinks."
drunkenness
*****Sounds like a regular week end for me.... What is your point?
Offense to God (O)(2):
humankind was blamed for the "failure" of the Scriptures, implying the Scriptures are imperfect
*****They are imperfect. Read the Dead Sea scrolls. Try explaining why there are several versions of the Scriptures.
much, much smooth talk to confuse into not believing in God, to cause to question, and to counterfeit His Word
****Free will? Is that a new concept to you?
"...passing judgment is reserved for God and God alone."
**** Seems as if your are doing this to Mr. Smith and his fine movie. Hypocrit.
calling Crucifix wholly depressing
****Depressing and scary as shit. You bitch about graphic mass murder. What do you think the Crucifixion of Christ was like? A fucking picnic?
Buddy Christ icon; mockery of Jesus and the crucifix
****It draws attention and focus to Jesus. Therefore is it a good thing. God is not against laughter.
cast out "angels" trying to get back into heaven
****wouldn't you?
"The church said it is so. God must adhere."
****what is the point of a god that doesn't listen?
justifying homicide with "God wants it."
****Remember the Christian Crusades? What do you call that?
"I think God is dead."
****Have you seen him?
demons and muse, repeatedly
****Who is to say that they are not around us at any point?
demon worship, Satanic manifestation (forehead horns sprouting on a man)
****that was no man. That was THE MAN Jason Lee.
"We went through five Adams before we figured that one out."
****Could be true. I wasn't there I don't know...
ethereal transporting
****Pretty cool eh? Try reading some Steve Hawkins and see if you think he is a demon or a Genius.
"Noah was a drunk and look what he accomplished."
****He was.
"Back in the old days God was vengeful and hot tempered."
****He was.
claims that Loki, the angel of death, destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, not God
****He did the work. Were you listening to the dialog at all?
"Wisconsin is worse than Hell."
***It is.
portrayal that cast out angels can manipulate God
****It is called a movie. Fiction. Do you watch 101 Dalmations and bitch about dogs can't really talk!!! They must be d3mons!!!
"To Hell with Him."
***Freedom of Speech.
claims that God has a sense of humor, thus lowering Him to human level
****What is wrong with that?
"When --- happened, where was God?"
****good question that everyone asks at one point.
implication that we, as a people, have matured and what was sin may not now be sin
****True. We have changed biblical laws to suit our selves.
"You knew Christ?" ... "Knew Him! --- --- owes me $12.00!"
***It is called a joke.
claim of a secret to resurrection, implying that anyone can do it
****Fictional writing...
portrayal of a 13th apostle
***Grasping at straws here aren't you.
"You are the one who's gonna help me get some changes made in that book (the Bible) you put so much stock in (to get the 13th apostle added)."
To the 13th apostle: "You went to Heaven?" The 13th apostle: "Yer --- right I went to Heaven. That's the least He could do. Y'know, in the three years I followed His --- around Jerusalem, did I ever get laid? N-o-o-o!"
"If I were in Heaven, I wouldn't care what the Bible said."
"Folks who build faith on that message (the Gospel) are color-blind."
many statements and inferences "God's a woman."
claim that men wrote the Bible, that it is not God-breathed/inspired, who added their own "perspective" (and to fortify the claim told the viewers that since all the Apostles were men, they changed the "she" into "He."
"It (the Bible) stinks."
"It doesn't matter what you have faith in, just that you have faith."
"No denomination has nailed it yet."
portrayal of an angel chumming with a demon: "You're a true friend."
"I'm so angry with her (God)."
"One day, God just stopped listening."
"For the first time, my eyes are open." to justify evil behavior
"I ----- hate you. I HATE you." to God.
man walking on water
"It's too big." ... "That's what Jesus said." by the 13th apostle
portrayal that angel is necessary as an intermediary to talk with God
"God's a skeeball fanatic and disappears from time to time."
"He (God) has abandoned you."
portrayal that a demon can dispatch God
"It's better to have a good idea than a belief."
portrayal of God walking among man
portrayal of God healing as a human (NOT as Jesus)
virgin pregnancy
Murder/Suicide (M)(3):
graphic murder with a hockey stick
gunfire murder (not seen but heard)
episode of multiple gunfire murders
murder by automatic gunfire
neck break murder
four murders, one by impalement, three by drowning
graphic knife murder