Posted by Darth Dobbin at ct-naugatuck3a-68.wtrbct.adelphia.net on August 06, 2001 at 14:31:40:
In Reply to: shut up posted by boyweakling on August 06, 2001 at 13:26:47:
with people nowadays. (A curmudgeonly thought, but bear with me. He writes:
: who are you to tell people whats childish and what not to say?
--I've noticed this same sentiment over and over again, in many guises, among the angry, ill-informed, under-read and over-indulged internet youth. There's this sense of entitlement that is really disturbing.. A blanket, all-encompassing urge and feeling that thier freedom of "expression" is all-encompassing, and that ANY constraints upon it-- common sense, courtesy, decorum, decency, or informed counterpoint-- are yolks of oppression.
There seems to have been, somewhere along the lines, a death of shame. A little bit of shame can be a very good thing. If you say something STUPID, and are called out on it, shame is the intellectual-survival-mechanism that drives you to become better informed on the subject. If you are a lout, and say or do something creepy or nasty, and are taken to task for it, shame can be the force that makes you reconsider your stance.
Among the "Boyweakling" crowd, however, there is none of this shame, no thought of self-questioning or self-criticism, and, I think, all it amounts to is a bunch of Id-shouting. "I wanna call anybody I want whatever I want!" "I wanna.. I wanna.. I wanna..." "You don't like me? FUCK YOU!"
In a way, it's also the death of chivalry. Remember when the "nerds" used to be the quiet, pensive kids who secretly adored the "popular" girls, and crafted sweet, naeive fantasies about being the "secret worthy" ones that, by dint of noble intention and being "the good guy," would EVENTUALLY win out? The party line for the nerd-set about whatever girl who was the object of their geeky adoration used to be "If she were with me, I'd treat her like a princess."
Not so anymore. Somewhere along the line, the masturbatory Knowles-contingent won out. This is a REALLY geeky thing to say, but it is as if "the Dark Side" of the Dork Side has finally set in, and now holds absolute sway and dominion. It's why I stopped reading the funnybooks-Comics stopped being about goody-two-shoes heros fighting bad guys, stopped being brightly colored and innocently fun morality tales, and became angry, adolescent revenge fantasies, filled with gun-toting, no-shit-taking anti-heroes, and rediculously out of proportion, scantily clad boob-women.
How very sad and tawdry.
Pick up a copy of TOTAL FILM magazine. Or read the "talkbacks" on AICN. Or watch THE MAN SHOW. Somebody convinced "guys," somewhere, that being a "guy" is somehow more "honest" and "true." If you feel something, SAY IT! Fuck responsibility, fuck other people's perspective, fuck propriety, SAY IT! You would like to "bang" Jennifer Love Hewitt, and "make her pay?" Post it on a message-board! You'll find MANY like-minded souls who will reinforce your attitude. You're "part of the crowd!" "One of the guys!"
And the best part is, you DON'T HAVE TO FEEL ASHAMED for having these views, or saying ANYTHING, no matter how moronic it is!
Books SUCK! History's USELESS! Fuck GLAAD! ...Whatever shit you want to spew, spew it, and revel in the fact that YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY SO, AND FUCK ANYONE WHO GIVES YOU SHIT ABOUT IT!!!
Wrong. Wrong, wrong wrong. Aaaah! Jesus wept.
Anyway, I think that crazy girl in SAY ANYTHING said it best when she said, "Don't be a GUY, Lloyd. Be a man."
Yes, "boyweakling," you have the RIGHT to say ANYTHING, no matter how stupid or assinine it may be. But with that right should come the responsibility to EXAMINE your own views, and what you say, and see if it is worthy of being said.
I think that when you spew stupid shit, you should feel ashamed of yourself for having done so.
But hey? Who am I to tell you what's childish or what to say?
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