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Posted by TPS_report at mur-fw.cvgs.net on August 07, 2001 at 10:41:09:

In Reply to: I honestly think GLAAD feels betrayed. posted by Isis on August 07, 2001 at 08:08:22:

Isis, I generally love your posts, but you are WEAAAY off the mark on this one.

IF the real goal of GLAAD is to improve the media treatment given to homosexuals, then why would JSBSB be a bigger "target" than Rush Hour 2? Why target a film by an openly pro-gay filmmaker that should gross about 50-60 million dollars when Rush Hour 2 is prolly gonna do twice that? As far as visibility is concerned, wouldn't it make sense to go after the bigger picture?

Is it about words? Using the word "gay" and euphemisms to that effect to denote something that's *ahem* less-than-desirable is not really progressive, but Homophobic behaviour that threatens violence against a gay man being close- as if the "gayness" will rub off- is Neanderthal and really offensive.

: Firstly, Rush Hour 2 isn't being marketed (somewhat) exclusively to teen males.

Who else watches Jackie Chan Movies? 45-60 year old Females? This comment is ludicrous.

: Secondly, I do think that GLAAD has approved of Kevin's shit in the past even when there were gay jokes or whatever in it. Seomin doesn't think he's actually homophobic. I think they see the larger amount of "gay" comments in J&SBSB as disappointing.

-And what better way to show your disappointment than to attempt to publicly censure a supporter of the cause you represent? If Mr. Seomin is convinced that Kevin Smith is NOT a homophobe then WHY is he publicly attacking his film?

: I mean, what do you expect from the shmuck(s) who wrote/directed Rush Hour 2, that classic gem? For better or worse Kevin has created higher expectations for himself; it may not be fair when he gets the short end of the stick but no one complains when he gets positive attention.

"Higher expectations" my ass. You are implying that his crime is to be first a supporter of gays and lesbians, and then to use non-approved terms to refer to them? Does his support of the gay community make him more culpable for a perceived slight now? The Kev-Meister took PLENTY of shit for Chasing Amy from ALL sides.

: I do see your point however; "Rush Hour 2" just isn't as hot of a target.

No, it ISN'T as "hot" a target, and I'll tell you the REAL reason why J&SBSB is the target and Rush Hour 2 is not. Kevin is a smart, liberal filmmaker with a reputation for making thought-provoking films (that prominently feature dick and fart jokes). He A) cares about gays and how he is perceived by the gay community and B) is catholic enough to publicly "blink" in self doubt in the face of a public staring contest re: his support for gays and lesbians.

Rush Hour 2 is NOT thought provoking and is geared for anyone who wants an entertaining, violent 90 minutes of no-brain-required "fun". J&SBSB may also fit this mold, but Kevin has a cadre of movies that do not. Does that make RH2 less homophobic or less offensive? If you have a shred of intellectual honesty the answer must be a resounding "no".

Let's call a spade a spade and admit that GLAAD has a political agenda to advance as well as financial motives to enhance, and it seems willing to "eat one of it's own" to get attention and money.

I LIKE gay people (although that's like saying I like Canadians, it's a broad, sweeping generality with a basis only in the few that I've known). The agenda and political clout held by the groups that proport to support them scares me. I swear to god I'm frightened of ANY political group of more than 2 people. Agendas are terrifying things requiring the occasional human sacrifice to advance. Ergo, Kevin under the wheels of the bus.

"I hope some day you'll join us, and the world will live as one"

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