Posted by Mr. Derris at dsl-dynamic-199-177-203-104.iquest.net on October 18, 2001 at 21:02:15:
In Reply to: Chasing Dogma and Planet of the Apes. posted by Aeon X on October 18, 2001 at 18:25:55:
Yeah, I know and that's kinda my point... it was implied that someone had stolen an entire story line from Kevin, the ending of Planet of the Apes did not do this because in Chasing Dogma that wasn't a story line (And even if someone would consider it a story line it was one stolen from the original Planet of the Apes.) And even if Burton did use Chasing Dogma as the basis for the ending of Apes then I don't see any difference in that than the way Jay & Bob escape from the Marshall as being a complete story line rip-off from Fugitive... but this is seen as an homage.
I'm rambling now... back to the original question... when did someone rip off a story line of Kevin's?
: : You seem to be implying that someone stole one of Kevin's story lines... am I missing something? When did this happen? What story line was it? Who did it?
: I'm sure it's posted in a summary or something somewhere, but I'm too lazy to find it. Instead, I'll take the more difficult option of writing it out myself.
: Basically, Kevin wrote the Chasing Dogma comic book mini-series to cover the events in Jay and Silent Bob's lives between the end of Chasing Amy and the beginning of Dogma. The bulk of issue 3 was eventually incorporated into J&SBSB; it was about Suzanne the orangutan(sp?) escaping, and a federal wildlife marshall hunting down the ape. (The marshall in this case was a total, direct parody of Tommy Lee Jones' character in The Fugitive, instead of just the scene in the dam, although that's there too.) Anyway, remember the scene in J&SBSB when Jay imagines of the world being run by apes? That's originally a part of issue 3 as well. Part of the page depicting this has the apes removing the head off of the Lincoln statue in the Lincoln Memorial and replacing it with an ape's head.
: Now, recall the end of the shitty remake of Planet of the Apes. (If you haven't seen it already...you're luckier than I was.) Marky Mark crashes back on Earth at the Lincoln Memorial, only to see that in the new history, it has instead become the Thade Memorial, with General Thade's head in place of where we would expect to see Lincoln's.
: So, the question is, did Tim Burton, director of PotA, rip off Kevin? The answer, most likely, is no, and I don't believe Kevin believes Burton did this either. But it created a big hoopla a few months ago, most of which was unwarranted.
: Hope that helps.
: Additional funny thing...a lot of the comic depictions of the apes taking over was translated onto film in J&SBSB, but Kevin opted not to do the Lincoln Memorial one. Good thing, too, or else it really might have been REALLY bad.