Network TV plays classics?

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: : : : I love that film. I can't believe it isn't played as a classic. : : : Where? : : Network tv : Jeez, I've been surprised that ABC has taken to showing Bond movies again. Aside from that I don't remember the last movie more than 10 years old I've seen on a network. : : : By who? : : A network : Yeah, ok... : : : What are you talking about? : : Obviously something you are mixed up about. : Yes, because "played as a classic" doesn't make sense. Communication is a two way street. : : As much as TV shoves bullshit shows in your brain every day, TV does have the ability to open your eyes to new things. Great. Your theater shows it. I was talking about it being shown on TV. Played as a classic. : I don't necessarily think being shown on tv has anything to do with being a classic. : And I think "played as a classic" is one of the worst attempts to express a concept I've seen in some time. : : : THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN. : : Yes, thank you. I think we all know the name of it, Rainman, but we're glad you know as well. : So, because we know the name, we shouldn't type it out, just leave it a secret, lest any other people find out. : : : Another excellent movie, : : The "Ugh" shows how it fell short by miles in my opinon. It's like remaking Citizen Kane. : I disagree. : Hell, I'm even a bigger fan of THE SEVEN SAMURAI than I am of CITIZEN KANE, but I still think the issues surrounding them, the symbolism and ideas behind THE SEVEN SAMURAI lent themselves very well to a translation. : Hell, any movie in which a band of heroes is gathered up one by one to accomplish a mission is essencially following up THE SEVEN SAMURAI. : : : John Sturges did a nearly amazing job of translating the Eastern symbolism to Western equivilants : : In a flick that should have never been translated? The translation itself was so cheesy it was brutal. : I think it's easy for people to knee-jerk into this anti-remake attitude, but I'm not sure I support it. Obviously nowadays it's almost invariably a sign of creative bankruptcy. However we live in the video age where all these older movies are available to us to watch and rewatch and study until we go blind. : In the early 1960s hardly anyone in the US had seen or even heard of THE SEVEN SAMURAI despite it being one of the more successful foreign films of the time. Continuing studio monopolies on theaters relegated art houses to small theaters in big cities with little advertising. : A film like THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN could easily have been made with very little changes and only astute critics would have even noticed the similarities. Certainly there have been dozens of other movies in that vein. : The way it is, Toho got money for the project and a lot of people were introduced to THE SEVEN SAMURAI because it was the movie that inspired THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN. Oh, my! What a terrible result that is! : : : as well as having a great cast : : No argument there : : : and exciting action. : : Umm... It had a great cast. : Now you're just being an ass for the sake of being an ass. I don't even believe you've seen it now. : : : People love to get pissy because it's a remake but I think it just makes them look stupid. : : I like remakes if they are good... and well... This one had a great cast. : Such as? : : : It's not as good as the original - there are maybe 10 other movies ever made that are, : : If that. : Read my sentence again. : "There are MAYBE 10 other movies..." : You rant like an insane baboon about your nonsense phrase "played like a classic" and then try to call me on something that I stated exactly the same point. : : : But again, since I don't know about this concept of being "played as a classic", : : A&E, TMC, ABC, NBC, PB fucking S, even! Just play it more! Not you, of course. You're not a cable or a network company. : Get no disagreement from me... except in the notion that "played as a classic" means that. : : : I can hardly make the argument about which gets more such play. : : I thought "play" would be taken as a TV term with a film this old (and it was, by everyone but you), but I should have been more specific. Sorry. : I didn't argue against play. I argued against "played as a classic". You've repeatedly stated your intent and it's a perfectly noble one. I still dispute that it made much sense. : As it stands, I'm all in favor of it being played. I don't think I've made a Top 5 movie list in the last 5 years that didn't include it (before that I was more inclined to RASHOMON, but I've changed courses in my thinking). : Unfortunately, I don't think you'd gain many fans by showing it on tv as a standalone. Most modern English speakers who aren't already familiar with it will see it's in black and white and Japanese and move to the next channel. TV is a medium of comfort for the vast majority of the human race, whether this is a positive or a negative is another debate entirely. : I think you'd be more likely to get people turned onto it by showing something more familiar and western and letting them know the source material or, of course, through film discussion programming or writing. I don't think airplay should be a reward for quality, even if the goal was to better the viewers view of the world and enlighten them, which isn't even really the goal of the "good" A&E, Bravo, AMC, TCM channels, I doubt the ability of putting more material that people would avoid in their video store is the way to do it.

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