Posted by sean at threshold7n.jpmorgan.com on May 22, 2002 at 11:54:55:
In Reply to: Read response to posted by Jeweliet on May 22, 2002 at 11:43:33:
: : "Oh, uh, I don't feel the need to stand by my words at all ... but not because I'm clearly wrong and can't respond ... no, it's, uh, because, I'm ... bored! Right, that's it! Bored bored bored."
: I see now that the board isn't about discussion at all but it's more about beating one person who doesn't share the exact same opinion as you to a pulp from every which way until they collapse.
No, it's a perfectly fine place to come for discussion. Sure, there are bad people here, but just don't talk to them. If you don't want to talk to me, that's fine, I honestly won't care, but I'd like if you'd just finish this one post to understand where we're coming from.
See, a discussion requires *both* sides. If you come here, post what you think and then respond thoughtfully to the responses -- or, at least, the rational ones -- then that's a discussion. But if you come and respond to anybody who tries to talk to you "I'm not talking to you, I'm talking to Kevin" or "Whatever, you can't possibly understand" to every guy who disagrees and "You're just stupid/ignorant/whatever" to every girl, that's not a discussion. It becomes clear that your "point" was neither well-thought out nor justified, for any of a dozen reasons that have already been said by various people in response to you that you ignored by saying "Oh, you're twelve years old". I could just as easily respond to everything you say by writing "You're clearly a forty-year old eight hundred pound virgin with hair on your back", and it would have just as much relevancy in the argument, and be just as much based on what I've read as you saying any/all of us are twelve years old.
Seriously, do you want to actually discuss it? Because, if you do, you're going to have to accept that fact that (1) more than 50% of the guys out there will flat think you're wrong. Ignore them. (2) Miscellaneous people may well agree with you. While this has yet to happen here, I'm sure somebody somewhere was thinking "Boy, I'm glad somebody said it!" You have to concentrate on the people that think that you're wrong but have reasons, such as the fact that, regardless of what feminists say, no guy has ever said, "Man, that Calista Flockhart actually is sexy!" It's only women who are holding up that head-on-a-pike look that you're attacking, and they're only saying it's what they think men want. The whole thing is only rendered further absurd by the amazingly large generalizations that are being made by both sides (including me).
: What are you, Nazi's?
No, the Nazis are the ones who pre-judge people based solely on appearance or image. We're the ones who get to know people as well as we're allowed before we attack them.
: Thanks; you're a real sport.
Hey, I've tried numerous times to get you to respond to even one point i've had, and I've been called all sorts of names by you. I didn't even say that you *were* a whiny bitch, just that you were acting like one and maybe that's why people mistook you for one.