Posted by sean at threshold5n.jpmorgan.com on August 01, 2002 at 19:42:57:
In Reply to: your stance on my bitterness is much the same posted by Pitstain on August 01, 2002 at 17:54:55:
bit·ter
Proceeding from or exhibiting strong animosity: a bitter struggle; bitter foes.
Resulting from or expressive of severe grief, anguish, or disappointment: cried bitter tears.
Okay, so the first one is clearly you more than anybody else in the conversation. You're the only one who's taken to personal attacks; I don't even know your name.
But the second one is pretty dead-on too. You're upset that, in your mind, Andy has been raised to some higher level by being associated with Brian Lynch, and it miffs you so much -- especially because you don't feel he deserves it, though, as I've said, you haven't seen any of his movies -- that you have to warp it in your fragile, begrieved little mind until what actually happened becomes that Brian Lynch is world famous round the world and Andy came along and tricked him like Rumplestiltskin into putting his (Andy's) work onto the Internet and giving it a high reccomendation so that the droves of fans that Brian Lynch has will embrace Andy just as equally. It's not that bad a theory, as long as you ignore every single fact as they actually are.
: as my stance on andy's videos.
: i deny all allegations of bitterness but DAMN if you can't be convinced.
Actually, you denied it once, maybe twice, and it sounded something like this:
"I hate your talentlessness and everything you represent and you're not funny at all and I think that you're not earning your way to get people to watch your stuff the way Stormin' Norman did ... * but I'm not bitter, but you just suck ... *"
* - both of these ellipses represent extensive cuts, 'cause i figured you got the point and it was painful to write that stupidly.
: andy denies all unfunny allegations, but DAMN if i can't be convinced.
Uh-uh. He went as far as to acknowledge that him not being funny is your opinion. What's he's been denying is the stupid shit like "You're riding Brian's coattails, even though he didn't have any coattails at the time when you started riding them and, even now, his coattails would more accurately be called cult-tails, really." The point is, you're trying desperately to kiss Brian Lynch's ass by saying he has an 'empire' and 'coat-tails' to ride on, but you're meanwhile attacking one of his friends. If that isn't bitterness, then I don't know what is. But, wait, that's right, you're the one who doesn't know what it is.
: is there a point? no. we're all wasting board space with un
: "winnable" arguments.
I've been asking you in every post to actually explain what your so-called argument is. Since you *still* haven't given any, I have to assume that this (to steal from my betters) isn't an argument, it's just contradiction. No matter what anybody says about Andy, you're just automatically rejecting it out-of-hand. Have you even read any of the posts you responded to? Forget, for a moment, about the idea that you've yet to show any knowledge related to any of Andy's work, have you even read the posts you're discussing?
: i GUARANTEE you that if this thread were to be deleted right now
: you'd never hear another peep out of me about it.
: can you say the same?
Well, gee, which of the two (or even THREE) of us is the one who started this with his petty whining? Was it the same one who refuses to have even the common decency to just *ignore* somebody that they dislike as obviously as you dislike Andy? You're worse than The Bastard with Jack Black, because at least Jack Black doesn't come up in conversation on here as often.
So, okay, we've got your guarantee. Does that mean that when you break it, Andy would have the right to request your banning, since your whole schtick seems to be "Hey, Andy, you aren't funny, no, really, you aren't funny, and that's just the end of it!" I wish you could at least find a different way of saying 'not funny'.
I'll go you one better. I'm done with this so-called argument no matter how much more you post. But I dare you to read this, or any of my posts, and respond to even one single point that I've made, rather than deleting them all and starting from scratch. Go on. You know that you think that you're smart and funny enough to respond to *something* I've said. Seriously, I want you to, even though I won't respond. I just want to see you try to make one coherent point that doesn't involve the phrase 'not funny' or 'not bitter'. I think it would be funny to watch you fail and, on the off chance that you do make a point, then you've won the argument by proving that there was one.