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Posted by Deltron at gso26-137-032.triad.rr.com on November 10, 2002 at 03:05:04:

In Reply to: Heres why posted by Malcolm Load on November 09, 2002 at 16:23:11:

: Cuz he's a homophobic asshole.:

I've heard a LOOOOT of people say the word "faggot." SHIT what about Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. That had gayness all through it, but it was a character, not a man's voice. More on THIS later.

: Because he's an annoying middle class white boy begging for cred as street:

I didn't know Eminem when he was 12, and neither did you, so not one of us can make an accurate statement on that.

: Because I don't know if anyones noticed...all he does is "rhyme" about his rather uneventful and boring life:

Yeah, but he does it from different points of view. Again, more on this later.

: Because he hides behind the first ammendment like a little bitch.:

By that token, so did Lenny Bruce.

:
: I think he sums it up best when he says that MTV would be boring without him....

: Sure...he's a bitchy, whiney , antaganostic loudmouth (funny..I should like him) with more money than God....
: He's ENTERTAINMENT....a clown:

And why did people start making music, or why did people start making movies? To...to make people think?

No. To entertain. You can't convince me that a movie of a fucking train roaring past a camera was meant to make people think. Movies and music started, in their earliest stagest, as a form of entertainment. It's the pompous minds that turned it into an elitist subculture.


: That's it...that's all:

THANK FUCKING GOD.

: On that level......I find the whole thing amusing.

: I just got sick last night at the theater seeing an army of emulating wiggers acting like fucking dickheads disrespecting everyone in sight.:

That I can get behind. But those are idiots. More on this after your sign off.

: And AMerica wonders why everyone hates them:

Gee, I thought it was our hypocritical stance on nuclear warfare and the government's ignoring domestic problems to attack a would-be threat half a world away.

: Look at your fucking heroes.

:
: -Malcolm:

Canada's got some heroes, too, god dammit. The Kids in the Hall. And. Uh. The Kids in the Hall?

: AS for Curtis Hanson

: I liked LA Confedential

: LOVE LOVE LOVE The Wonder Boys

: even liked Hand That Rocked The Cradle and The River Wild

: but come on man:

Now before anyone says anything, I'm not a big Eminem fan. I like his idea, and his concept, but his execution is shit. He needs to either get a better producer or stop making CDs, because he's going downhill fast.

As for the POV and voice of a character thing.

Eminem is doing what Kool Keith's been doing since the early 90's. It's just that Kool Keith's fans are smart enough to understand it.

I mean LOOK at Kool Keith. Dr. Octagon. Dr. Dooom. The Analog Brothers. Spankmaster. Matthew. Too many names to remember in a half-conscious state. Every one of his lyrics are sexually explicit or graphically violent, and because he does them under rather obvious guises, he gets away with it.

Eminem chose to limit his characters, speak from a different place, and he's gotten a lot of shit for it. Look at the albums that came out. The Slim Shady album, the Marshall Mathers album, and the Eminem Show. Slim Shady is the playful, who gives a fuck side of his personality. Marshall Mathers is his human side. Eminem is a hybrid of the two.

Were the production better, Eminem would probably be one of the better rap/hip hop acts out there right now. But he got caught up as a pop musician and instead of kicking and screaming until he got the fuck out of there, he just gave up and caved in.

That's my take, anyway.





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