Re: 8 Mile and a retort to Malcolm.

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: : The fact remains that he is the most talented and interesting artist in hip hop right now. : : ----Someone please explain this to me. What's interesting about misogony and homophobia? : ----Malcolm, you're arguing against yourself on this point. If you want to come out and say, ok, I don't like Eminem b/c he either directly or indirectly supports homophobia and Misogony , fine, but in the same paragraph laud NWA who did the same exact thing is uninformed and curious. NWA used the word "faggot" exclusively on their albums and asked for the "murdering of police". Now, I don't feel that they actually meant this at all, I'm not that naive or silly, however, it was a portrait that they painted in their songs, just like Eminem. : : It almost seems like people feel that tolerataing his offensive attitudes is cool. ---This is why NWA, the Ghetto Boys, etc, made millions... : : "Hey man...he's being ironic" : : Let me tell you something.... : : Just because he says he's "trying" to be inflamatory...doesn't make it right. : It doesn't but it sells records and has people talking, ie: right now, which is more than most popular music has done in the last 15 years. : : : : Who else is making good, good rap music? It will be easy to bring up acts that have made good songs, ie Jurassic Five. But right now, and for the last three years or so, no rap artist comes close to this Eminem. Plain and simple. : : -----Well....in my opinion.....there has been no great rap since NWA. : : And take a look at PUBLIC ENEMY...Listen to FEAR OF A BLACK PLANET or TAKES A NATION OF MILLIONS.......you tell me what good rap is then : Malcolm, you are preaching to the choir on PE. They made great music, there is not denying that and they are on of my all time favorites. But I believe that Eminem is good rap music. It's just different than PE and Run DMC, A Tribe called Quest and so on. : : It's certainly not some dorkus bitching about Moby. : : : Also Malcolm, I know what you mean going to the theater and being annoyed by the younger kids but come on. We were all obnoxious at those ages. : : ---I'm alot more obnoxious now than I was then. : Hear hear : : AT that age I was doing what kids should be doing...LSD in parks...not hanging around malls and theater complexes : Malcolm, we're both fans of Mallrats right? And kids are kids. It's funny that I read your post today b/c I caught myself bitching about it last night. I'm 28 and i was very annoyed but hey, kids are going to act up. It's called the matinee, it limits the annoyance factor. : : And before you go and start using words like "wiggers", think again. These white kids, whether they were brought up with money or not, were raised on hip hop. And I for one don't think that's too horrible of a thing. Be careful of what you speak. : : : : ---Wigger is such an awful word because it's root is based in a despicable word.....I apologize for using it. : : As for these kids raised in hip hop.....Well......it wouldn't be such a bad thing if hip hop is what it was......In the golden age of BDP,PE and NWA. : : I don't know if anybodies noticed but now it's kinda gotten egocentric and about nothing but gettin rich,fucking,killing and getting high....oh...and complaining about how famous you are. : : And yeah...That's a pretty horrible thing to grow up on.. : : I do feel sympathy : : I grew up on the DEAD KENNEDIES, THE CLASH, CRASS, SEX PISTOLS........now THAT was something to sink yer teeth into : I grew up on the same things, Jello Biafra, now that's a topic. : : All you poor guys got is NELLY and BLINK 182 : : -Malcolm : : P.S : : but thank you for explaing your point...without jut saying...Malcolms wrong and Drawing Flies sucked : : LOL! : Take care malcolm. : Smosh Josh

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