The Temple of Isu

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: : : : If you doubt the Bible holds water as said accurate description, that's a you against the : : world, "Dogma"- type argument (trust me, I know); because most of the world - religious : : and secular - acknowledges the four Gospels as the historical record of Jesus' life and death. : : : From where do you draw this statement? I haven't talked to most of the world lately, so I : : honestly don't know. : : Isis, from most of your posts, I've come to the conclusion that you're smarter than this. : : : Do you mean that the Gospels are the ONLY record of Jesus' life and death? : : Yes. And as such are considered, academically as well as theologically, as historical : : documents. : : : Because I can agree with that. But they aren't a "historical record". We haven't exactly got : : a birth certificate for the guy nor is there any physical record of him on the Roman census. : : From Luke:21-3 : : "In those days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of the entire : : Roman world. And everyone went to his own town to register." : : Apparently, this passage in Luke refers to the first census that took place while Quirinius : : was governor of Syria. : : However, no Roman Census was held to be absolute. : : If you got to... : : http://www.csun.edu/~hcfll004/romancensus.html : : ...you'll find this note at the bottom of the page: : : "Note: All the figures given are problematical, in various ways. First, there is the problem of : : the correct transmission of numbers in the manuscripts. Second, there is the issue of who : : precisely are being counted in each census. Third, there is the question as to whether : : complete census returns were ever made. Most authorities find it difficult to believe that : : statistics prior to 340 B.C. are anything but fictitious." : : But this, like much history, is muddled due to the subjective nature of the historical : : experience. I'm sure there are over a hundred different versions of the night Lincoln was : : shot, based on all the witnesses in the theater. But eventually, one version of the story : : (perhaps one comprised of the multiple versions) becomes the historically accepted factual : : account of the death of Lincoln. So, too, with the life and death of Jesus. You can stomp : : your feet all you want, crying "Bullshit - he's not in the Roman Census!" Hell, I'll even join : : you in aspects of your debate about the historic Jesus; however, only a willful ignoramus : : rails against the fact that the Bible (like it or not) is an historically accepted account of the : : life of Christ. : : You realize this is like an argument over what color blue is, right? Maybe you don't agree : : with the rest of the world on the subject, but blue has been roundly agreed to as being blue. : : : And obviously, if the story is true there's no remains of him to be found. : : Apparently remains have been found. There are reports of bones in both France and Japan : : that are rumored to be Jesus'. : : There is also the temple of Isu (sanskrit for Jesus) in India.

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