Posted by everkorn81 at 69.41.96.25 on January 19, 2004 at 20:08:14:
In Reply to: i'm joknig with you posted by grizzly on January 19, 2004 at 20:06:53:
i'm totally on the same page as you. i haven't tried it myself, but i have seen the suffering some of those guys go through.