Posted by Penn Jillette at 1cust128.tnt33.dca5.da.uu.net on May 02, 2004 at 13:24:41:
In Reply to: Re: Vegans, Friends of Vegans, Vegan Enthusiasts posted by Jami on May 02, 2004 at 12:52:37:
: The only evolution there's been is a little nudging from God in one direction or another. But the Bible does have a part where we are ordered by God to eat meat. After the Great Flood God tells Noah people now *have* to eat meat because the earth can no longer produce plants that will give humans all they need to be healthy and survive.
It's possible that there's a God. I won't concede that there is, because I personally believe that it's bullshit, but try this on for size. Even if there is a God, would it not be better to live your life as if there isn't. See, because even if God is real, it's impossible to know just how much say in YOUR decision making It really has. Take some responsibility for yourself. Don't make a decision, because you interpret a case of gas as God moving within you. Do it based on your own intuition and intellect. If you life your life based on non-judgemental common sense and your faith somehow survives this, then it truly is an awesome spirituality that you enjoy.
: Take a look at what heart doctors have now found. That you MUST eat 3 oz of red meat (no more, no less) a week to get the B vitamins one needs for a healthy heart. Veggies and fruits don't have them. Heck, one of mom's friends - her husband was a vegitarian but became diabetic and now he HAS to eat meat to keep his diabetis under control.
Which "heart doctors" are you referring to again? In all fairness, we should have a certain regimen of vitamins and iron, but you know what's so cool about evolution? We've reached the point where we can provide the same benefits of meat in dietary supplements if we, the enlightened species, should make the personal choice to not eat meat.
: Seeing how there's no such thing as evolution - at least not how scientists put it - there's nothing to worry about.
...except for individuals who make statements like these which is based in a decision to believe something which can not ever be proven. They are the most dangerous kinda of bullshitters.