Posted by Marilyn at neptune.sabre.net on October 19, 1999 at 11:17:26:
In Reply to: Repost: What happened last night... posted by Placenta Jones on October 19, 1999 at 10:17:44:
Far be it for me to get mixed up in this...I read most of the posts from the last board and I feel the need to make a point. In my opinion, this board is for those people who enjoy and admire Kevin's work (which doesn't suggest you don't). A lot of people on this board lack objectivity when it comes Kevin's work and for good reason; this is a fan board and most are ready to defend Kevin's honor when said critic or 'board crasher' blatantly attacks Kevin and his work. Most people of this board are here because they support Kevin and his many talents. They come back to this board day in and day out to "feed" off the master. Given that, it's difficult to swallow when someone on your message board (someone you would think is here to admire and support you), tells you your work is lazy. Regardless of your explanation as to what you meant by "lazy", the truth is, the word and your statement implies..."he who's work is lazy is also lazy." An inanament object (a comic book) can not be lazy unless someone (or something) so makes it lazy.
The point is, there's nothing wrong with objectivity (ie...nothing wrong with you disliking the comic) and from my perspective, objectivity is better heard from someone that admires you. But the fact is, your objectivity lacked tact and from where I come from (I come from Mars; or is it France?), tact is something you use when speaking about or to someone you respect. You're not a critic, a board crasher or some Catholic League closet homo (or are you?)....you're here because you admire Kev and his work. Shit on those you disrespect; provide objective and constructive criticism to those you do respect. If you follow that my friend, you will receive respect in return.
Take care,
Marilyn
Your friendly neighborhood dead movie star
: Just so you guys can see...
: Man, the last post I saw last night was Hawkboy's "Damn Skippy". I went home, kissed my wife, went to bed, and just got to work now.
: Then I read all of the posts under my original "Jay/Bob #4 - Big Disappointment" post...
: ...
: ...shit.
: What the hell happened? World War III broke out over something an occaisional poster happened to dreck up! Sorry, Hawkboy. You had my back on this issue early on and I'm sorry I got you involved in this mess. Now, I don't feel like taking this further, but here...I'd like to offer a few explanations and apologize for getting the whole board's panties in a twist.
: 1. Yeah, I didn't like #4, but it's not the end of the world. For those of you who think that's blasphemous...you really need to get laid.
: 2. To set the record straight, I used the word "lazy". Hawkboy didn't. And I never called Kevin "lazy". For my money, there's not a harder working man in show business (except for Dan Hedaya who is in EVERYTHING). I called the writing lazy. That means (to me) the story seemed slap-dash. Full of lots of possibly good plots threads, jokes, and Dogma set-up that never came together. Why did this happen? I'd guess that Kev was rushed and had to get the book out. If Kevin didn't like my adjective choice, that's fine. I gave him a bad review and no one likes bad reviews...but don't discount the validity of my opinion.
: 3. I got mad at Gaidin not because he/she disagreed with me, but because Gaidin COMPLETELY discounted my opinion. Gaidin said "Oh, they must not like the book cuz they're mad at Kevin because the book is late." Once again, Fuck that. That completely takes any value away from my honest opinion and portrays me as a short-attention span fanboy who has had a simple lovers-spat with his favorite comic god. I respect this board and I know it is a "honorable" place, but ANYONE who blows off my opinion that easily can lick my pucker until toxic shock sets in and they die.
: So, to sum up, sorry if I pissed a few people off. Love the board, love the Askewniverse, and I do love almost all the works of Kevin Smith. Hawk, sorry I wasn't there to get your back last night, but it never occured to me how bad this could get.
: It was a great, great thread and I got called a "pompous ass" by Silent Bob. What a weird night.
: Placenta Jones
: "But we named the dog Placenta!"