Posted by Whisper2AScream at gatekeeper.gccnj.edu on November 30, 1999 at 16:48:56:
In Reply to: Re: Loki was,bartelby was a schmuck posted by Placenta Jones on November 30, 1999 at 13:14:32:
Ok, been studying this whole thread, and need to add my two cents. *LOL* A thousand pardons to all, but it's long. Yes, I can be pretty long-winded at times. *LOL*
As it had been pointed out in an earlier post, Bartleby was truly remorseful for his actions once faced with God, and Ben did indeed an excellent job showing this on his face. Just one look, and you could see him crumble. Like a child who was acting bad, and was now faced by the disappointed face of their parent. He realized, "Yeah, I fucked things up big time, and now going to have to be punished for it." That was indicated by his nod, understanding what She was about to do. But he was never human, only a fallen angel, so you can imagine where he ended up. Oh well.
As to how Loki and Bartleby could be not noticed in Wisconsin, I'm guessing that they probably hid out, and were avoiding humans for a while. Though, perhaps they could manipulate their appearance to blend in more as to not appear inconspicious. Notice the fact they could easily hide their wings under nothing more than hooded sweatshirts. They could most likely manipulate their faces so that locals would not have suspected, or they might have suspected the truth due to higher spiritual awareness than most cultural groups. If so, they would give them a wide berth, and respected their privacy, due to their supernatural natures.
Either way, their Purgatory was relatively quiet, and yes, it is a Purgatory. They were in a limbo state, not bad enough for Hell, but not good enough for Heaven. Though unfortunately for them, as Bartleby pointed out, hope of forgiveness was not an option normally for them without this special loophole of plenary indulgence, due to the fact, angels did not have free will, only to serve, and because of that, if they chose to go against God, no chance of forgiveness. They were never allowed the option to choose. Because of that, their Purgatory would be permanant as opposed to the human equivalent where free will allows the chance to choose to screw up, and grants more redemption allowance.
But that's just IMHO.
What do you think, Kevin? Interesting postings on the question? Or are we all too long winded, and reading waaaay too much into the movie? ;) All hoping to hear your words of wisdom, oh great one.
(k, leaving now that I've done my weekly ass-kissing. *LMAO*)
~Whisper