Posted by Placenta Jones at spider-ta053.proxy.aol.com on November 30, 1999 at 22:20:14:
In Reply to: To repent or not repent? posted by Whisper2AScream on November 30, 1999 at 16:48:56:
: Either way, their Purgatory was relatively quiet, and yes, it is a Purgatory. They were in a limbo state, not bad enough for Hell, but not good enough for Heaven. Though unfortunately for them, as Bartleby pointed out, hope of forgiveness was not an option normally for them without this special loophole of plenary indulgence, due to the fact, angels did not have free will, only to serve, and because of that, if they chose to go against God, no chance of forgiveness. They were never allowed the option to choose. Because of that, their Purgatory would be permanant as opposed to the human equivalent where free will allows the chance to choose to screw up, and grants more redemption allowance.
: But that's just IMHO.
I think this makes some really good points, but once again, it still leaves me with questions. I think the root of my problem with this is the idea of angels becoming human if they cut their wings off. Granted, angels do not have free will, BUT if they cut their wings off and become human, then...don't they get free will??
Do wingless angels become mortal (i.e. able to die) or human (i.e. free will, original sin, dicks, whole whole nine yards)?? If they become human and they are still not able to enter Heaven if they're truly sorry, then Bartelby and Loki are either special freak humans without the full privledges we have or...or the God in their world is a pretty vengeful lady? Who knows? Maybe she's still pissed about going down on that guy in the theatre?