Posted by Banky Fan at spider-tf023.proxy.aol.com on December 02, 1999 at 10:16:13:
In Reply to: Loki in the Loophole?? posted by Obi Weed Kenobi on December 02, 1999 at 01:04:06:
Loki *was* the Angel of Death. He was on God's payroll, so to speak, for a good deal of time. I figured that what Bartleby had talked him in to doing what simply a "leap of faith" for him, something that might've even been akin to what Bethany was going through (I mean, she DOES say she thinks "God is dead" at the beginning). He had never wanted the church massacre, and had only done the Mooby thing to "Get back on his good side".
Bartleby, however, did what he did in malicious intent. He killed those people mercilessly, whereas Loki did it with a purpose (remember, Loki said he was just "picking people up off the street")
The way I've seen it, Loki was forgiven for what he did (which, folks, when you think of it, was just bad judgement...he didn't go around killing for killing's sake) and went to Heaven. As far as Bartleby, when God herself HUGS you, one would take that as forgiving him...but not forgetting. He thanked her for forgiving, before she blasted him into nothingness (which, IMO, was rightful punishment).
There are my thoughts, inane as they may be.
-M@tt
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: Ok quick question here concering Plenary Indulgence. When Loki is murdered by Bartleby the understanding is he goes straight to Heaven.
: Now when God is released from John Doe Jersey, transubstantiates into energy returns to heaven and theninstantly slingshots down to the church, shouldn't Loki be side by side with her and Metatron?
: I think it would have had a little more emotional impact if Bartleby said I'm sorry not only to his creator but to Loki, his lifelong ward. I mean Loki put up with Bartleby's ludicrous ideas to overthrow God or at least challenge her judgment, and then he gets his fucking wings ripped off and all the guy wants to do is get drunk. I think he was very much wronged by Bartleby and there should have been somewhat of a recant. I'm not saying it didn't work, just a comment. Any takers?
: -Mathew (did I really just question a plot point in a Kevin Smith film?) *proceeds to slap own face*