Posted by Noghri at dialup1115.3rddoor.com on January 19, 2000 at 00:33:22:
Okay before I get flamed to badly for posting about something that gets posted about every other minute I will go ahead and apologize to all the board regulars. Smalls, Darth, Neil and everybody else Me Sorry. I am only bringing it up agian so that everybody can answer and then maybe it can be put to rest. With the exception of the newbies, of course, who show up in the coming days and years who will certianly ask agian. Oh yeah and This is only my opinion so don't assume I am trying to say that this is what happened I am simply giving my opinion and then asking for yours.
Thanks and read on if you dare. LOL :)
Okay Maybe I am just idealistic, but wasn't the whole point of the movie redemption? Not just for Bartleby and Loki, but for Bethany, Rufus, hell maybe even Jay and Silent Bob. It would, in my opinion, ruin the movie to think that Loki and Bartelby went to hell. I mean what the hell did you people like about the movie that would keep you liking it if you thought that they weren't forgivin. Don't get me wrong thats not the only thing I liked about the movie, but damn I wouldn't like it nearly as much if it didn't add up to them being forgivin. I consider DOGMA to be one of my all time favorite movies, but it would really ruin it for me to hear that the went to hell. I can deal with Chasing Amy's ending not being certain. I don't try to decide if Holden ended up with her our not, I think that was half the beauty of that movie, but to even consider the fact that Bartelby and Loki went to hell would ruin the whole movie. I ask Kevin to please not tell us if they went to heaven or hell. Let those of us who think it impossible for them to go to hell hold on to our error if it is an error at all. I believe Bartelby had a line that asked something about God's eternal patience. I figured that God was answering his question by forgiving them. Here is my take on the whole thing and though it may be wrong. The reason all the things in the movie happened was because God wanted it to happen. I doubt some teenage kids on roller blades could really kick Gods ass, but God allowed it to happen so that Batelby, Loki, Bethany, and Rufus could find peace with themselves. If God had of wanted to then he/she could have gotten up and walked right out of the hospital at any time. It was as they call it a "hero's trial" for them all. God wasn't incapasitated, (sp?) at any point. Okay maybe it is pushing it a little to think that, but hell Isn't that why they didn't say for sure if they went to heaven or hell so that people watching could decide for themselves, sorta like Chasing Amy? What do you guys think? The only question I ask Kevin is did you leave the question of their fate unanswered so that we could decide for ourselves or did you assume it would be implied? The question for everybody else is what do you think their final fate was?