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Posted by TangoMania at spider-ntc-ta084.proxy.aol.com on December 27, 2000 at 02:37:44:

In Reply to: It is simple... posted by The Scarlet Spider on December 27, 2000 at 02:24:05:

: by making people feel bad (also known as Stepping on them) you lower their self esteem. The kids in Columbine were Outcasts and had low self-esteem. If you get what I am saying you don't have to continue reading because I will go into what I mean more.

I think this is dangerous, dangerous thinking. It avoids real discussion, honestly, and any sort of growth. She made a BAD website. She MEANT well. Hitler MEANT well. Does that mean I should have tried to boost his self esteem during a late night chat about the direction of his life even though his ideas were bad? I don't get why me being a little short with some kid is such an offensive or terrible thing.

Look, why were the kids in Columbine outcast? Because of society? Do they have any blame here? Or do you honestly think the culture killed those people? I tend to take blame for stuff I do myself and not cast it on others. That's not productive. Just because I see something doesn't mean I have to reflect it. I can digest it, think it's stupid or smart, and do with that information what I will. Since I don't consider myself better or worse, smarter or dumber than the average person, I assume that they can do the same. She can read me saying her website sucks and disagree. Or agree and change it. Or get mad at me and make an ass of herself, which is the route she took. Many people dislike my site, more power to them. I'm not funny or interesting to them, so whatever. I can live with that. I'm not all things to all people and either is she.

And you also imply I have some sort of power over this person. I'm just some drugged out fool with a keyboard. Free your damn mind.

: The kids esteem were so-low that they felt no other alternative than to lash out at a word that was harsh to them. Verbal Violence leads to Physical violence and we all know that violence is not the answer.

Verbal violence? Come on. And I'm not responsible if she goes and shoots someone. That's pure bullshit. SHE is. The kids at Columbine did it themselves, I don't care if football players were mean to them and they couldn't get laid.

-=Scott=-

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The Sad part is that you said you don't care...NT The Scarlet Spider 02:53:40 12/27/00 (11)
- Huh? TangoMania 02:58:33 12/27/00 (10)
  - Read what you wrote NT The Scarlet Spider 03:05:28 12/27/00 (9)
    - ... TangoMania 03:15:47 12/27/00 (8)
      - So you think those poor people in 3rd World... The Scarlet Spider 03:34:47 12/27/00 (3)
        
        ARRRGGHHHH! Charlton Heston 10:37:43 12/27/00 (2)
        
        WTF, do you know what you are saying? The Scarlet Spider 12:22:17 12/27/00 (1)
        
        Here is the link... The Scarlet Spider 12:28:54 12/27/00 (0)
      - So you think those poor people in 3rd World... The Scarlet Spider 03:23:47 12/27/00 (3)
        
        WHAT? TangoMania 03:27:29 12/27/00 (2)
        
        What's happening outside... NT The Scarlet Spider 03:43:33 12/27/00 (1)
        
        Waiters are farting on merengues and serving them talk radio 05:56:28 12/27/00 (0)

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: : by making people feel bad (also known as Stepping on them) you lower their self esteem. The kids in Columbine were Outcasts and had low self-esteem. If you get what I am saying you don't have to continue reading because I will go into what I mean more. : I think this is dangerous, dangerous thinking. It avoids real discussion, honestly, and any sort of growth. She made a BAD website. She MEANT well. Hitler MEANT well. Does that mean I should have tried to boost his self esteem during a late night chat about the direction of his life even though his ideas were bad? I don't get why me being a little short with some kid is such an offensive or terrible thing. : Look, why were the kids in Columbine outcast? Because of society? Do they have any blame here? Or do you honestly think the culture killed those people? I tend to take blame for stuff I do myself and not cast it on others. That's not productive. Just because I see something doesn't mean I have to reflect it. I can digest it, think it's stupid or smart, and do with that information what I will. Since I don't consider myself better or worse, smarter or dumber than the average person, I assume that they can do the same. She can read me saying her website sucks and disagree. Or agree and change it. Or get mad at me and make an ass of herself, which is the route she took. Many people dislike my site, more power to them. I'm not funny or interesting to them, so whatever. I can live with that. I'm not all things to all people and either is she. : And you also imply I have some sort of power over this person. I'm just some drugged out fool with a keyboard. Free your damn mind. : : The kids esteem were so-low that they felt no other alternative than to lash out at a word that was harsh to them. Verbal Violence leads to Physical violence and we all know that violence is not the answer. : Verbal violence? Come on. And I'm not responsible if she goes and shoots someone. That's pure bullshit. SHE is. The kids at Columbine did it themselves, I don't care if football players were mean to them and they couldn't get laid. : -=Scott=-

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