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Posted by zeta at a010-0293.rlgh.splitrock.net on August 19, 2001 at 09:21:32:

In Reply to: Sorta Negative review, but not TOO bad-SPOILERS... posted by Bruce The Shark on August 19, 2001 at 07:33:11:

Which one was the wifey? And I seriously doubt he "boned " the Jennifer chick seeing as how he seems very in love with his wife.
Zeta


: Well....

: Okay. I realize I'll be fried for saying some of these things, but I need to vent.
: I didn't think J&SBSB was THAT great. Damn good, but not the "Best".

: Before my hide is totally handed to me, let me say I REALLY had a blast(In the end, isn't this what counts??), I will see it again and again, and HOPE some of my 'wishes' are solved via DVD.

: What I liked is WAY too long to place here...but I'd like to say that what I found most shocking....
: Jason Mewes CAN ACT!
: He was as good as any of the American Pie cast, or Road Trip crew. Perhaps the herb is taking a reverse effect on him? Damn, he has presence. People have stated that Shannon Elizabth would never go for Jay...why not? Nobody said that about Biggs in Pie(s).

: Jason will HOPEFULLY either find his own course in films, or maybe Kevin will let him actually branch out in small, tiny parts....

: Also, it MAY be the DP..who was great..but I think Kevin just blew the screen off..and he handled all of the pacing, actors and sequences amazing. "Static Director" my ass.

: Also, Kevin should reward Jaime(sp?) well...if Kevin is as hefty as he claims..how come he looks to have lost a lot of weight during the film? I'd also like Kevin to 'act' more....screw the silent shit.

: Okay, so this isn't negative...I'll get to specifics, which are basically fan boy whines.

: First, Kevin protected this SO much that I expected MORE from the jokes...Daredevil..I figured a bigger scene..I BARELY saw him....WTF???

: Also, they say this is "For the fans"...of what? American Pie, Scream, etc?

: My HUGE ass complaint is the lack of Brodie, and the SEVERE lack of Dante and Randal. I may have missed something, but I thought I was promised(Sorta) Clerks 2...which became Clerks/Mallrats 2..which would have been fine..which became Clerks/Mallrats/Chasing Amy 2....YEAH!

: Kevin always said Jay and SB couldn't carry a movie..and wouldn't.
: Well, he was wrong..they can and DID....and I am happy for him..but in the end, more Clerks in Color and Brodie got lost.

: Also, why the Suzanne bit ripped directly from the Chasing Dogma series? I just checked..some lines almost word for fucking word! If Kevin was going THAT route, the Doogie Nights scenes would have been great.

: When I got the CD, I noticed no great Lee quotes...and now I know why. Before I get too angry, I realize that Jason had a rough schedule, and just getting him for those scenes was cool enough.

: But....Quick Stop?? Dante? Randal?
: PLEASE tell me Kevin shot a nice 20 minute "TV" show type of Mini-Clerks 2 for the DVD. PLEASE. I want to see these guys have one last long discussion or three. This was lame, as I thought they both looked great, age understanding, and in color..it seemed..so RIGHT. Please tell me a bunch was cut for pacing.

: Couldn't we have had a more menacing Vincent in there? The 'New' Quick Stop clerk(Trainee) with a mean streak? UGGH!
: Christ, have Dante and Randal quit and have Vincent and Bryan or even..MING replace them.

: Look, no offense to Brian and Jeff, but they HAVE (HAD?) the time to shoot more..and I do understand Kevin wanting to leave the "Askewniverse" behind..but please let us have REAL closure..not 8 minutes of Lee, 10 of Affleck, and 9 or so of Dante and Randal, and some mumblings coming from a frigging movie premier.

: This was WAY too much about the cameos, and at times, felt like 'Rat Race'...too many celebs....which would have been cool as a lead in to the end..but AS the end?


: I had enough of Jay and Silent Bob to 'Lay Them To Rest'....it seems Jay will eventually get hitched...but Bob's fate??? Come on, Kev...throw us a bone. Would have been nice to see Bob as Prince's new "Hetero-Lifemate" or a new member of Run DMC. Fuck, let him GET MARRIED to that babe in the leather...I mean, that character played by that Jennifer actress. The hot brunette. I wonder if Kevin boned her?
: (BTW-Nice job ..has she acted before? Mrs. Smith really held her own against the rest...even better IMHO than one of the 'name' girls.)

: So, I accept Jay and Silent Bob leaving the building...and leave in style they did....

: BUT...

: I 'Made Peace' with the Holden and Alyssa characters. Thanks.
: Brodie? Nope. Not one great dialogue sequence. All those comics and NOTHING to say?
: Banky? I'm confused...either he DID end up being gay...which would have been a nice developtment, but with Hooper? I just don't see them as a couple, even IF Banky is gay. Best friends, yes....but partners? I'd have to see more....(Not THAT much more, mind you...)

: The truth is, that quip that many have assumed meant Banky was indeed, gay...sounds an awful lot like jokes my friends and I say to each other.
: "You didn't mind my cock last night..."

: Banky and Hooper have been friends for YEARS...that type of joke would seem natural. ESPECIALLY if Banky was straight, but came to terms with his 'Issues' and was at peace.

: If anyone actually reads this..is Banky gay? I'm hoping so, because I think it gives 'Amy' more depth. I'm not gay (That I am aware of....), but would have appreciated a slightly more real handling of this.

: All in all, I say "negative" just to vent my rage over my own false expectations....and hopes for the DVD.

: I KNOW I will enjoy it the next time around, because my expectations will be lowered, and this will free me to just relax.

: All in all, I hope we DO at least get more of Dante and Randal via cartoon...PLEASE!!!, but am happy to see this inbred continuity sent off...

: Give me the fatherhood movie and Fletch, please.

: Keep the new DP, if possible.
: Let the ol' wifey act more. PLEASE keep Mewes around...maybe seeing him in a short wig playing 'straight' would be fun.

: Okay, so I couldn't be negative....I tried...my post is nothing more than a long drawn out cry for more Clerks.

: Shit, why do I have to wait a week???
: Man, if this hits the $1 theatre, I may have to set up a cot.




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