Posted by Duffless at hide101.suffolk.edu on January 30, 2002 at 12:18:16:
In Reply to: Rubbish! posted by Jim Shady on January 30, 2002 at 11:51:49:
The original poster asked for people's opinions...I gave my well thought out opinion, which you based just because you have a differing opinion..Grow up, and if you had an opinion about boxing then post it...but why post, saying that my opnion is wrong? Get a life, and learn to treat others with respect. -patrica
i've responded to your question
: : Boxing is not a sport. Two people punching each other until one can't take it anymore is not a sport...just because they are athletic and train to do it, doesn't make it a sport...
: It's all a matter of opinion, but it's been considered a sport for thousands of years. OF COURSE IT IS A MATTER OF OPINION...I WAS STATING MY OPINION, AS PER THE ORIGINAL QUESTION. JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS ACCEPTED FOR A LONG TIME, THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT, LOOK AT HISTORY BUDDY...
: :In my opinion boxing is a travesty...promoters take young black and hispanic men off of the street and train them to Box, little is done for their education and they are reared to love and embrace violence,
: They're not forced into it - for many, it's a way out of the grinding poverty and violence of their surroundings. How many successful boxers still live in a ghetto? Also, education doesn't come into it - you don't need education to be a boxer. And when you say "reared to love and embrace violence", I think more than a few of them were raised in an atmosphere of violence. Tyson certainly was. OF COURSE THEY ARE NOT FORCED INTO IT, BUT THEY ARE TAKEN OF THE STREET AS CHILDREN AND NOT GIVEN PROPER EDUCATIONS, THE MONEY IS THERE, BUT THE ATMOSPHERE IS ONE OF VIOLENCE, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE STREETS WERE SAFE, BUT WHAT IS YOUR ARGUEMENT? JESUS CHRIST CAN'T ANYONE HAVE AN OPINION?
: : they are made slaves to their masters...Don King is a slave master,
: He's just another business shark with watertight contracts up his sleeve. If the boxers aren't clever enough to read them before signing, then it's tough. The world doesn't exist for the benefit of the stupid. OF COURSE THE WORLD DOESN'T EXIST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE STUPID, BUT THESE PEOPLE ARE APPROACHED WHEN THEY ARE YOUNG AND UNEDUCATED, AND THEY ARE BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGED OF BY THESE WATERTIGHT CONTRACTS...JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE THE BIGGER FISH DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU SHOULD RULE THE POND, OR THAT IT IS RIGHT
: : It is also my opinion that boxing is fixed and has been since the 1970's, can I prove this, no.....but that is how I feel....
: As before, it's an opinion. Can't prove it, can't disprove it. You could hang that tag on many sports though. OF COURSE THIS IS MY OPINION, DID I SAY OTHER WISE? DID I SAY I COULDN'T PROVE IT, OF COURSE I DID.
: : why do you think that Tyson is a violent ear biting rapist...because he is a psycho....he may have done all of those things without boxing, but we will never know,
: So what are you saying? Is boxing to blame or not? I SAID THAT WHO KNOWS WHAT CAUSED HIM TO BE THAT WAY, DO WE EVER KNOW, NO BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET INTO SOMEONES HEAD..DO I THINK THAT THE BOXING HELPED HIM..HELL NO...AGAIN MY OPINION AS STATED BEFORE
: : I certainly don't think that boxing served as an outlet for his violent expressions, more so as a catalyst for his rage....
: Boxing isn't there to be an outlet for violence. The fact that violence is involved is incidental. HOW IS VIOLENCE INCIDENTAL TO BOXING? THAT MAKES NO SENSE. ITS THE THRUST BEHIND THE WHOLE "SPORT"
: : I don't think Boxing should be banned, as two adults hitting each other is their business
: So what was the point of saying that there should be an end to boxing? MY POINT IS THAT AS A GROUP OF PEOPLE, PERHAPS WE'VE OUTGROWN THE NEED FOR REAL VILOENCE TO FUEL OUR ENTERTAINMENT...DO YOU WATCH THE CHAMBER TOO?
: : however, shame on all of us americans who pay countless dollars to support this industry
: That will be the boxing fans - I wasn't aware that boxing had government funding. WHO SAID THAT BOXING HAD GOVERMENT FUNDING? I DIDN'T SAY THAT..BUT SHAME ON ALL THE AMERICAN WHO PAY COUNTLESS DOLLARS FOR IT...DID I SAY TAX DOLLARS NO....WHO IS SUPPORTING BOXING, THE PEOPLE WHO PAY FOR IT BY BUYING TICKETS AND PAY PER VIEW...YOU ARE JUST PICKING A FIGHT WITH ME..
: : to quote the simpsons"just don't look"......maybe it will go away
: Why not try it? Your reasoning is knee-jerk and your conclusions are muddled. Find some other soapbox to shout from. BECAUSE MY REASONING IS DIFFERENT FROM YOURS, WHY DO YOU FIND THE NEED TO CALL THEM KNEE JERK..HOW IS IT KNEE JERK I'VE SPENT 28 YEARS FORMING MY OPINIONS AND BELIEF STRUCTURE AND IT HAS SERVED ME WELL...I AM OPEN MINDED OT OTHER PEOPLES BELIEFS AND I EXPECT THE SAME TREATMENT...DID YOU SEE ME COMING ON HERE AND TELLING OTHERS WHAT THEY THINK IS WRONG! I DID'T THINK SO..
: Jim