Posted by costumegirl at spider-tp062.proxy.aol.com on March 08, 2002 at 08:30:05:
In Reply to: Re: Dogma and the word Fu#k posted by Georgiabelle on March 08, 2002 at 00:47:22:
: : Dogma is a great movie. It is hilarious and smart. I fell in love with Kevin Smith's movies after seeing Dogma. I now own both the Collector's edition and the regular (?) edition on DVD. Don't have such a closed mind about the film or the word fuck for that matter. Fuck can be used as a verb, noun, pro-noun adjective, and much, much more!
: :I don't have a closed mind. I just know what's the truth. Also, everyone
: has a right on what to care for and what not to care for. So, I choose not to care for that particular word. Thanks for your opinion and have a
: wonderful Friday!! :)
Georgiabelle,
I respect your right to choose what you do and do not care for. I believe that everyone has the right to choose for him/herself. Which is why I would definately suggest that you give Dogma a shot. When I first showed it to my mother (I know that she was humoring me by sitting for it at all), she said "I didn't know that this was a morality piece. How great that these 'cool Hollywood guys' would go in for a film about right and wrong(ok, it's not a direct quote, more of a paraphrase)." One of the things that I take issue with in organized religion is the use of the term "the truth" however. Truth is a subjective word, but many religions tend to equate it with "fact." Dogma does tend to question that humans know anything about what God is thinking or feeling, and people have taken some offense to that. I personally feel that the movie has clued me in to another thought process on God, and made him/her/it closer to me. I have studied many religions, including Catholicism, which was the one I was brought up in, so I feel comfortable saying that Kevin Smith is a brilliant theologian, as much so as someone like Billy Graham. He just looks at things a little differently and is a whole lot less divisive in his theories. The good message one can get from both of these men is "God loves you." I just believe Smith is saying it in a way that speaks more to me and my generation. He looks at it as "God loves us, and has a sense of humor," and as I've said many times before: "Any God that'll get my vote has a sense of humor." (That last was a joke, in case you missed the dripping playful sarcasm) I am the last person who would tell anyone what to do, I believe that people make up their own minds 100%, which is one reason that I'm an extremely spiritual person who hasn't been to church in more than 10 years (I don't like to be told what to believe and how) and who has been known to pepper her conversation with some four-letter words when appropriate. I also am currently rereading the Bible from cover to cover again (also because I don't like being told what's there, I want to know for myself). The point of this whole War and Peace-length post is: If you don't want your beliefs challenged, you might want to choose to put a foot through your television and come out of your house just to go to church. However, if you want your beliefs strengthened, listen to what others have to say, and be unafraid to incorporate them into your own understanding. That's what religion is in my mind: ideas which you share with others through actions and two-way conversation, not through pulpit-beating and one-sided dialogue. Even Jesus, when he preached, did so quietly, to those who chose to listen, he did not beat others over the head with his thoughts (as many televangalists do), he chatted, and loved, and that's what Dogma's about, in my humble opinion.
I hope that you, too, have a wonderful Friday