Posted by Jeweliet at cs242247-113.houston.rr.com on May 22, 2002 at 11:27:47:
In Reply to: Re: And no one asked you :-) posted by sean on May 22, 2002 at 11:19:32:
: : You all make me laugh but in a sad this-is-where-are-country-is? way. Take a few classes and read a few more books before you come here and ask me why it's detrimental to the human psyche to be bombarded with sexist images every second of your entire life. And then you can forget it all because until you've lived it, you have no idea.
: And how, exactly, is the entertainment world's presentation of men any different? Movies aren't real, and anybody who thinks they are anything but an artificially enhanced view of reality ain't worth the time it would take to explain all the ways that they're wrong.
: : : By lumping all women together into this poor, insecure beast who can't possibly gaze upon any woman who's remotely more attractive than they are, and to say that all men want J.Lo because of her ass makes YOU a sexist. Plain and simple. The fact is, the woman can act. If she wants to use her sexuality to get ahead further, fine.
: : yeah. That's actually *not* fine. I don't care if the woman can shoot ping pong balls out of her ass, she's part of the problem. By giving her money to shake her groove thang only promotes it.
: No, actually, it promotes her.
: : By buying MAXIM magazine or (dear God) FHM, you all encourage it.
: side-thing - what does FHM stand for? Now back to the response.
: : But dissuading 12 year olds from buying Sports Illustrated is such a hopeless cause so I'll move on. The letter wasn't actually to any of you anyway. :-)
: You posted an attack on somebody who sits at the head of a fairly devoted cult following on his own web-site and don't expect a response from the fans? You know, I was kidding before when I said you were stupid, now I'm not so sure...
: : :Do you think I have a legitimate complaint to Kevin that Ben Affleck is so much better looking than me? Where's Carrot Top, Kevin??
: : Yeah, where IS Carrot Top? Why can't filmmakers put more normal looking guys AND girls in movies? Wouldn't it be nice to see someone successful who looked just like you and not have to see someone who is more attractive and (apparently) a better person?
: Again, where is this interpretation coming from? You're the person who's saying they're better than you, not the filmmaker, not J.Lo (though she probably would, if asked, based on all the diva reports ... if she bothered to respond at all), certainly not all the guys who find her enjoyable to look at. There's a big world of difference, though, a world you -- like so many others who have tried to make your argument -- fail to recognize.
: : :and, believe me, if you'd been on this board for more than a week and seen any of the various things Kevin has said on the subject,
: : Son, you have no idea how long I've been on this board. Just because a jackass doesn't write out every thought in his 12 year old mind does not mean that there are not lurkers around.
: Right, but you said you only came here to find out if the reports that you read in other places were true. I do think it's funny, though, that that last sentence is you referring to yourself and not me (as you probably intended) a jackass. You said it, not me.
: : BTW, I know Kevin doesn't hate women; it was a cheap ploy to get my (very honest) letter read.
: A very cheap ploy that basically under-cuts any good points you may have had to make by immediately making everybody who reads it defensive before they even read it. Didn't they teach you anything about presentation in those books you're talking about reading? I mean, me, I read books that I enjoy and observe life and people on my own, but I'm sure that it's far, far easier to sit in your room and complain about all the "beautiful" people out there.