Posted by Jack Spencer Jr at sa16-p47.dreamscape.com on January 23, 2003 at 01:22:21:
In Reply to: Now, now, now. There are some problems here... posted by Raikus on January 22, 2003 at 14:24:02:
: Because men are visual animals. We need to see it with more than our minds eye. And on very rare occasions we get to see a glimpse of someone's vision who had more imagination than ourselves with the same material. There is nothing better than a GOOD movie based off something you love. Consequently there is nothing worse than one that is horrid.
That may be your opinion, but even a good movie based on something I like always leaves me with a hollow feeling. There are always changes, no matter how minor, and even if they are minor, it just isn't the same. Ferinstance, I never saw Ben-fucking-Afleck as Jack Ryan. Buscemi maybe, but not Afleck.
: Now this I agree on. It's just a fact that comic characters clothes can never exist in a three dimensional reality. They just aren't feasible with nature's laws (most of their bodies proove this as well). I was at dinner with my fiance a few weeks ago and she asked how Daredevil could have made his costume if he were blind. After trying to make up an explanation along the lines of "well, due to his blindness, other senses of his were expanded and honed. Among these taste, touch, smell, hearing, and... fashion?" But realized that she was right. Where did it come from? Things like this aren't questioned in the comics.
Ever see the original yello costume? The bad guys should have been like "Hey, lookit that outfit. This guy is blind!"
: This isn't true. Blade proved this wrong. In fact, Blade was probably one of the least known characters in Marvel (along with Cloak & Dagger and MoonKnight) before the movie.
Yes but Blade is a costumed super hero in the traditional sense, is he? Neither is Men In Black. I'll bet most movie viewers never knew they were comic books.
: Out of all the problems with Spider-Man, special effects were not one of them... with the exception of Goblin's costume, if counted as a special effect.
I agree with you about the Goblin suit, but I found the effects in SPider man, particularly the part where Peter Parker is leaping rooftops because he had just found out he can to be horrid. I remember the old Superman cliffhanger where they made Supes fly using an animated cartoon. It was a lot like that.
: Which was a redeeming quality.
Well, maybe but like X-Men it seemed like the action just barely got started and then it ended. I left disappointed.
: Everything's related to sex in modern day cinema. You just need to accept that and move on.
I am not quite sure what that has to do with Spider-Man not inventing a web shooting device vs. spinning webs from his own wrists as one of the powers he got from the spider, but OK.
: And just as all of my opinions above are subjective, so are yours. It's all opinion, and you have good points. But don't hate the material, hate the people that take good material and turn it into crap. The Midas's of Manure. You shouldn't say "no" to comic movies because of certain turds that are thrown in the mix. The problem with these movies is the way their brought to the screen. It's that there are people out there that want to include giant spiders and polar bears because they're fearsome predators despite that subject matter. Those are the people that need to get blacklisted.
Actually, I think it has to do more with people who neither know nor care about super heroes making super hero movies. I understand the Albert Pyun Captain America movie tried to keep Cap out of his suit as well. However, the most dangerous sort of person is the kind who thinks they understand the subject matter. Joel Schumacher once said something in an interview in response to one of his Batman movies "Well, you have to understand how to make these kinds of movies" as if he knew what the hell he was doing when he put nipples on the bat suit. I wonder if he'll get to make he third Batman movie "Batman Oils Up and Rides Robin Like a Big Boy." (Nothing against the gay people on the site, but, well, imagine they made a movie about you but they made you straight in the film)
But then, getting someone who enjoy the subject matter is no guarentee, either. Dungeons & Dragons was made by someone who supposedly liked the game. He just had the directing talent of Ed Wood is all