Posted by Strictly Skewed at 206.165.115.194 on February 25, 2004 at 12:08:50:
In Reply to: Re: because her environment fostered it? posted by Xtian on February 25, 2004 at 11:53:21:
:i reserve the right to be myself, at all times.
Go for it. I have clearly misjudged you.
: : I think you're being naive here.
: no, i'm being different in how i deal with the world than you are. i think you are making both an assumption and a generalization on how i should be acting.
: : You use generalizations all the time. Every time you meet somebody new, you make generalizations, you have to, otherwise communication is impossible.
: you may be every man, you may be a new word man, you may be a renaissance man, but you are not me. do not tell me what i do and what i do not do as though you have a window into my soul and can see my every action.
: do i see someone on the street and assume they speak english before i speak to them? yes. do i see a pretty girl at a bar and assume she wont speak to me? also yes?
: do i see a person the street and assume that they don’t speak english and therefore are foreign and stupid? no do i see a pretty girl at a bar and assume she's a lesbian because she wont talk to me? no
: generalizations are as assumptions do, my maman always told me. communication isnt possible without generalization? i don’t even have any what the hell that is supposed to mean. i think you and i communicate on different levels, or you only exist in a theoretical world.
Fine, you don't understand my point of view. I won't try anymore. I'm glad that you try to have as few assumptions as possible about people you meet.
: : See, now, you have made assumptions, and they are completely incorrect. I am neither someone who abuses alcohol, nor someone who womanizes.
: i don’t recall stating that you are the sum of your father’s parts, btw. we were talking about views, not actions.
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: :Also, I think I have very healthy views on women, or at least, usually when someone has been affected the way you're talking about, men have views about women that are very dismissive and abusive. I swing very much the other way.
: i am incredibly pleased to hear that. but you original statement was “My father was an alcoholic and a womanizer. Is it surprising that *I* have problems relating to other men?” to which i theorized you might find that sort of male behaviour perfectly acceptable, as he might have been the only real male role model you had.
Personally, I see a lot of irony here. You make all kinds of assumptions and generalizations about how I am, based upon what you know of my upbringing, and yet you don't generalize?
Go ahead, please, use some of your wit to respond. Show everyone how intelligent you are because you are funny. However, I'm done.