Posted by Grand Master B at pcp01085045pcs.spedwy01.in.comcast.net on November 08, 2003 at 15:01:09:
In Reply to: Matrix Revolutions (might be spoilers, dunno yet) posted by GTJDorris on November 08, 2003 at 14:33:01:
Im not saying there aren't plot holes and shit that don't fly in this movie, but...
: 2)it was terribly written. The dialogue was so God damned predictable. I'd lean over and say what a character was obviously about to say, to my date before they said it (luckily she was dumb and thought I was genius)
Well, you take what you can get I guess.
: 3)If Neo can save Trinity one time, why not again? That's rhetorical because it doesn't make sense whatever anyone says to me.
Uh, because the first time it was in the matrix and the bullet that was in her wasn't real, it was only a program which told her brain it was real, but Neo has the brain power to see that it is in fact NOT REAL?
"There is no spoon"
And the second time, it WAS real, she actually had big poles sticking through her body. Pretty obvious if you ask me.
: 4)How can you have a world between the fake/computer created/"Matrix" and the real/three-dimensional/solid world? You can't. There just is no correlation to reality with what those fat fucking brothers wrote.
It wasn't actually in between, it was an area of the matrix that the trainman had reprogrammed, or changed the coding, or whatever.
: 5)How can a program fight deletion? It can't. It doesn't have a say in the matter. It's deleted or it isn't. Period.
Do you know of any programs that have emotions? No? Yeah, that's because this is a movie set in the future where they have that technology. Maybe the programs are advanced enough to hide from the source. How about a little bit of imagination?
: 7)Did anyone else think the makeup on Neo's eyes looked like the worst makeup job (and story explanation of why they look that way) since THE KILLERS by John Woo when Chow Yun Fat has that big crust grow over his eyes in about 30 seconds? I mean, Neo gets hit with a cable and instantly both eyes crust over but nothing else does? That's not how a wound happens. It just doesn't.
Neo got electrocuted, not "hit with a cable". Actually, if you took that much voltage to your eyes, they would in fact fuse shut.
: 8)I thought the Indian people/programs were explaining to Neo that they were trying to get their daughter/program OUT of the Matrix. But then she's inside it for the rest of the movie.
No, they were trying to hide her from the source to prevent deletion. yeah there's problems there as well, but that was the story.
: 9)What (in terms of their fucking stupid metaphor) literally "happened" when Neo let Smith take him over? I understand "he blew them all up to save everyone" but that doesn't explain HOW he did that to a program.
Man, you're a dork.
: 10)There is no way for a program to copy over onto a human, the way Smith came out of the Matrix and into a human body. Can't happen. Sorry. But based on that, the second and third movies fail miserably without all these other points.
Smith copied himself over a program that was "jacked in" to a human mind. That action killed the human mind, but left smith's conscienceness on that program. Then, when the mind was "jacked out"...
Wait, I'm coming off as a bigger dork. But seriously, if you follow the story it's not that hard to understand...
: 11)So at the very end instead of having a unique story/plot to base all
this cool action "within the rules" (by having it taking place in computer code, not in the real world) it comes down to Neo being Jesus and Smith being the devil? That is so fucking weak!!! How fucking retarded. I loved the first one and they have totally ruined it by the garbage that came after it. And naturally if your opinion is the opposite I'm not going to convince you (because you're wrong) and you're not going to convince me (because, again, you're wrong).
After seeing the two sequels, I definately agree that the first movie is better by itself. Reloaded 1 and 2 feel like movies set in that universe done by different directors. But they were fun, I didn't hate them like you did.