Posted by GTJDorris at nat-gateway-1.top.biltmorecommunications.net on November 08, 2003 at 15:49:27:
In Reply to: Re: Matrix Revolutions (might be spoilers, dunno y posted by Grand Master B on November 08, 2003 at 15:01:09:
: : 3)If Neo can save Trinity one time, why not again? That's rhetorical because it doesn't make sense whatever anyone says to me.
: Uh, because the first time it was in the matrix and the bullet that was in her wasn't real, it was only a program which told her brain it was real, but Neo has the brain power to see that it is in fact NOT REAL?
: "There is no spoon"
: And the second time, it WAS real, she actually had big poles sticking through her body. Pretty obvious if you ask me.
So he can't fix someone dying in "real" life but he can make machines drop out of the sky? That's fucking weak.
: : 4)How can you have a world between the fake/computer created/"Matrix" and the real/three-dimensional/solid world? You can't. There just is no correlation to reality with what those fat fucking brothers wrote.
: It wasn't actually in between, it was an area of the matrix that the trainman had reprogrammed, or changed the coding, or whatever.
That's not at all what the movie said. They called it "a world between this one and the Matrix." Their words, not mine.
: : 5)How can a program fight deletion? It can't. It doesn't have a say in the matter. It's deleted or it isn't. Period.
: Do you know of any programs that have emotions? No? Yeah, that's because this is a movie set in the future where they have that technology. Maybe the programs are advanced enough to hide from the source. How about a little bit of imagination?
This movie said itself that programs don't have emotions. Remember the Indian people? "It's a word, what matters is...." He was saying they don't have emotions, but rather constructs of ways to behave. And why if someone puts a shitty aspect into a movie *I* am the one that needs to use imagination instead of them writing something that makes sense to begin with.
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: : 7)Did anyone else think the makeup on Neo's eyes looked like the worst makeup job (and story explanation of why they look that way) since THE KILLERS by John Woo when Chow Yun Fat has that big crust grow over his eyes in about 30 seconds? I mean, Neo gets hit with a cable and instantly both eyes crust over but nothing else does? That's not how a wound happens. It just doesn't.
: Neo got electrocuted, not "hit with a cable". Actually, if you took that much voltage to your eyes, they would in fact fuse shut.
I understand they fuse shut, but not just your two eyes and nothing else. You're going to have scarring all over your face and burns and blisters, etc. Not just your two eye sockets and that's it.
: : 8)I thought the Indian people/programs were explaining to Neo that they were trying to get their daughter/program OUT of the Matrix. But then she's inside it for the rest of the movie.
: No, they were trying to hide her from the source to prevent deletion. yeah there's problems there as well, but that was the story.
Okay, that's good enough with me, but like you said, there's problems there beyond this.
: : 9)What (in terms of their fucking stupid metaphor) literally "happened" when Neo let Smith take him over? I understand "he blew them all up to save everyone" but that doesn't explain HOW he did that to a program.
: Man, you're a dork.
I'm a dork but the two losers that wrote this piece of crap aren't? Because they create this fantasy world based on rules that don't apply equally or at all times and yet *I* am the dork? I mean, I am dork, but not for the reason you pointed out. For a whole nother set of reasons entirely.
: : 10)There is no way for a program to copy over onto a human, the way Smith came out of the Matrix and into a human body. Can't happen. Sorry. But based on that, the second and third movies fail miserably without all these other points.
: Smith copied himself over a program that was "jacked in" to a human mind. That action killed the human mind, but left smith's conscienceness on that program. Then, when the mind was "jacked out"...
: Wait, I'm coming off as a bigger dork. But seriously, if you follow the story it's not that hard to understand...
I follow the story, my point is: it can't happen. It can't. Period. Doesn't work that way. Doesn't. NO! I said it can't. It just won't. I'm sorry, you're wrong, it just won't.
: : 11)So at the very end instead of having a unique story/plot to base all
: this cool action "within the rules" (by having it taking place in computer code, not in the real world) it comes down to Neo being Jesus and Smith being the devil? That is so fucking weak!!! How fucking retarded. I loved the first one and they have totally ruined it by the garbage that came after it. And naturally if your opinion is the opposite I'm not going to convince you (because you're wrong) and you're not going to convince me (because, again, you're wrong).
: After seeing the two sequels, I definately agree that the first movie is better by itself. Reloaded 1 and 2 feel like movies set in that universe done by different directors. But they were fun, I didn't hate them like you did.
There was nothing fun about the sequels. They were painful and I just can't be friends with anyone that liked them.