Posted by Isis at pppa37-resaleithaca1-1r7149.dialinx.net on July 11, 2001 at 08:43:04:
In Reply to: Kind words, but cruel lies.. posted by Darth Dobbin on July 11, 2001 at 00:58:41:
a young girl's stupid, fumbling affections, rather than get ridden by bitter, fierce, cynical experienced women, that is not my fault.
And I'm telling you The Dude exists. Mine is named Joe. My roommate's is named Stu. These dudes come around, and they are great guys & our friends...and we claim we don't want them...but would we get pissed off if we stole each other's Dude? Yes. This is not to say you necessarily are The Dude, but there is that possibility.
By the way, in case anyone was ever wondering, nice guys do not exist. When someone labels themselves a "nice guy" it generally means "i'm fucked up and I have problems and I'm super-sensitive". Nice guys end up being as self-centered and poontang-priviledge-abusive (if not more) than your average white-hat fratboy. The Scoundrel is he who exposes his slight nastiness for the fun and the honesty of it, but is quietly caring and deep beneath his roguish facade.
And should I ever meet this Scoundrel I pledge him eternal love and booty.
-- i
Save it for dobbin.com, you jump the gunner.
: ...Guys who end up as the eternal "friend" get no pity from me; they cast themselves in the role, willingly take on the mantle, tben complain with bitter, well-nigh misogynist fury about women being "back stabbers" and self-serving clap-trap about "nice guys finishing last."
: It always amazes me to see people so bitter and spiteful labeling themselves "nice guys."
: Guy in Question, the problem lies not with the women, but with you. Stop playing that role, and they'll stop responding to it.
: It's cool to be a Heroic Nice Guy, but you've got to have a bit of the Scoundrel in you if you want to get some interest.
: If you can see how the game is played, and what the rules are, it's nobody's fault but your own if you choose a bench position.
: And Isis- a word on the fragile male ego.. It is actually MORE crushing to a guy to be told that "when you're young you want to have sex with the wrong people and suffer passionate heartbreak"... All the "friend guys" out there WANT to be CHOSEN as the object of passionate SOMETHING, not the product of a more measured, wiser choice dealing more with the head than the heart and loins. It's the exclusion as a "candidate" that the "friend" guys get so bitter and creepy about.
: Anyway, the Gods help those who help themselves. Sir Jimmy,Better to "re-cast" yourself as another role than to attempt to be this fictional "Dude," who-best case scenario- only gloms up some rebound/emotional duress-sex that is later regretted.
: That's my advice, and I'm stickin' to it.